Posted on 07/07/2014 2:55:26 PM PDT by NYer
“Pretty sure she self-identified herself as a Christian.”
That’s how it’s usually done.
“Based on what?”
Her own declarations on the subject.
“Based on this article she is an idiot.”
It is possible to be both.
Other than knowing the biological father is an idiot liberal, I tend to think the child would be best suited to live with him.
Probably not worth spit
Most IVFs involve the married father and mother, with no genetic third parties or surrogate mother.
I looked for a couple of sound bites and she does sound Christian. However she also claims to have had several abortions and was upset because there were no black people in the Royal wedding. She sounds very confused and racially biased.
I am stunned and speechless. What a biotch.
She might think she is a Christian the same way a Unitarian does, but she is definitely not one.
Yes, but actions speak louder than words. I can self-identify myself as the King of England... That and two dollars might get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
Isaiah 29:13b ... this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
Mark 7:6 He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Anyone surprised?
Shepard isn’t genetically connected to the child, her ex husband is.
Her husband seems to want child support in this situation.
This could get interesting.
You are absolutely right!!! These children are deprived of their ancestry. As an adoptee and adoptive parent, I can't stress enough the necessary connection with one's ancestors. Since I am half adopted (I only know my maternal heritage), I recall the stories of those who came to the US, related by my grandmother. Over the past 2 years, working strictly from 'oral history', I have been able co verify that what was orally passed down to us is indeed true. My adopted daughter, OTOH, though she knows the names of her birth parents and has met her birth mother, lacks the oral history and has no interest in pursuing it.
Why is this link to the past so important? DNA! Both Matthew and Luke trace the ancestry of Jesus Christ. This forms a connection with the past. In my family, my uncle and I can trace our "gifts" back to their source. For example, I inherited the gift of language from my great, great grandfather while my uncle inherited the gift of music from a different great, great grandfather, on the same tree. It took me 50 years but, thanks to Ancestry.com, I was able to track down photographs of my great, great grandparents by identifying a missing cousin who had recently passed away. All that remained from his estate were the photographs and some historical documents. My request for these arrived on the very day they were scheduled to be shredded!
Knowing one's ancestral record connects the past to the present and fills in some of the blanks.
Several years ago, a young teen girl, conceived through donor insemination, was able to identify the name of her "father". GMA invited her and her mom on their show, with the promise of setting up a communications link to him. The young girl was excited to finally meet her "dad". While that may seem strange, it corroborates what I have just written. The desire to know one's ancestral record burns like an ember in the heart. Finally, the link was patched through and her "dad" appeared on the screen with his wife and two young sons. The girl blushed as she began to ask her questions: "Do you have large feet?" Something so simple may seem ridiculous but to one who is adopted or born through donor insemination, "yes", this is a big question. He smiled and said 'yes'. She sighed and smiled, in acknowledgement of this distinctive difference between her and her mother. After asking a few other questions, the GMA host had a question of her own. She asked the if he had any other children conceived through his donated sperm. He responded: "Yes! From what I understand, there are more than a hundred and I hope they don't all come looking for me." - laughing. The camera panned back to the young girl's face. The excitement of finally meeting her "dad" turned into a sallow expression as she realized that she was no more special to him than last night's dinner.
I posted a comment and link on comment #2 and will repeat it here. Pope JPII, who is now a saint, left us an Encyclical on the Value and Dignity of Human Life. It was Pope Paul VI who foresaw the future and published his encyclical on Human Life.
On July 25, 1968, Pope Paul VIs Humanae Vitae re-affirmed the Catholic teaching on life, love and human sexuality. In that document, he listed the consequences of life lived outside Catholic teaching. He predicted that:
In other words, Pope Paul VI predicted that contraception would evolve from a lifestyle choice into a weapon of mass destruction.
Yeah, best thing would be a nice adoptive home for the baby...
These surrogate arrangements began popping up in the 1990s, after the American court system effectively destroyed the rights of adoptive parents. First it was the birth mothers who litigated the issue, then the biological fathers. Surrogate pregnancies take away this legal Sword of Damocles by giving at least one of the adoptive parents the technical equivalent of birth-parent status.
Wonder what the contract says.
Seems like it is libs like Shepherd that are waging a war on women, especially surrogate moms.
A lot more of this junk in this article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/us/foreign-couples-heading-to-america-for-surrogate-pregnancies.html?hp&target=comments
Coming to U.S. for Baby, and Womb to Carry It
I was worried about that too until I read the baby is due at the end of the month. It should be safe now, shouldn't it? I mean I doubt an abortion is legal this late. Is it?
But *she's* not breeding. She bought ova and rented a breeder unit. She has no relationship to the baby whatsoever, except a purchasing order or whatever you want to call it.
The Maryville TN frozen IVF embryo custody-or-ownership case determined that the baby is property, not a person, like a bit of hamburger in your fridge. Keep it, give it away, sell it, throw it away. Feed it to your dog.
I can't even express how much I hate the cold depravity of it all.
The bottom line isn't that leftists shouldn't be allowed to breed, but that IVF should be banned. It is human trafficking. You'd think the 13th Amendment would have taken care of that. Human life is not a commodity; creating life should not be a commercial transaction.
There was one nice story (well, as much as these dreadful stories can turn out nice) I read a few years ago about a guy who did a lot of “donations” while he was in college.
At some point he was tracked down by one of the children. He was a bit freaked out at first, but then realized that he was young and dumb when he was going to the sperm bank and it was not right to reject the young person inquiring about him, plus he was curious himself, so he agreed to meet and answer any questions.
Then it really hit him that he had “fathered” who-knows how many children, and he owed it to them to be open to any who wished to contact him. Turned out to be a number of them, and he welcomed them all.
Seemed like the guy was really trying to make up for his foolishness and be an adult about the whole thing. He wasn’t trying to horn in on their regular lives with their parents, but kept track of all their birthdays and sent cards, plus held an annual collective birthday party for them.
I’m sure his maturity and kindness went a long way in healing the holes these kids had in their hearts. Plus these half-siblings now had their own new family. That’s about a good an outcome as could be expected. It was almost *too* good to be true, so I sure hope the story was accurate.
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