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For Olive Garden, the menu is worth more than new decor
Yahoo Finance ^ | July 9, 2014 | Chris Nichols

Posted on 07/10/2014 8:03:20 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: miss marmelstein
What galls me is that Olive Garden opened up a place on 23rd and 7th Avenue - directly across from a nice little place called Restivo. Who would go into one in Manhattan??

Out of towners...

61 posted on 07/10/2014 10:10:09 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Once you’ve had real Italian food you won’t ever go to OG anymore!

Truer words were never spoken.

62 posted on 07/10/2014 10:11:44 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

A cheap italian restaurant chain originating in Florida. Usually occupied by disgruntled managers and apathetic servers.


One of the things I noticed at the local OG is that the managers name is etched in stone on the wall when you walk it. Have never seen that anywhere else.

OG is ok, had better and worse.


63 posted on 07/10/2014 10:14:46 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Where is your thinking cap? The one you were issued in elementary school.)
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To: C19fan

My town has a multitude of family owned Italian restaurants to choose from. They are all different even though some are owned by competing family members. Still the Olive Garden is always busy. We know it’s not “authentic Italian” but they have some good dishes. Even my husband who grew up with an Italian mother likes a few of them, although NOT anything with their sauce.


64 posted on 07/10/2014 10:16:08 AM PDT by happilymarriedmom
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To: Cincinatus

The Old Spaghetti Factory has Spumoni for desert.

There are other tests. I went to a famous, old, family owned Italian Restaurant in the Russian River area in CA. They had an after dinner drink that is designed to settle the stomach after a big meal.

I don’t recall the name of the class of liqueurs, something along the lines of a ‘digestif’.

I tried it. It was foul tasting stuff, but I got through it, and it did as advertised. I actually felt better after the meal.

I’ve seen it on the menu in other fine Italian restaurants.

OG is a perfectly fine restaurant. It is a GREAT place to teach kids restaurant table manners without spending a boatload. The kids actually eat the food too.

It’s good food. You could spend more for more hand-made stuff in other family joints.


65 posted on 07/10/2014 10:17:47 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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To: miss marmelstein
What galls me is that Olive Garden opened up a place on 23rd and 7th Avenue - directly across from a nice little place called Restivo. Who would go into one in Manhattan??

Tourists from the South and Mid-West.

66 posted on 07/10/2014 10:30:46 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: from occupied ga
There isn’t anything wrong with Olive Garden as long as you don’t expect anything too fancy. I’ve eaten there on several occasions and found the food what you’d expect for the price.

You must have very low expectations. Some of the best Italian food that I have ever had -- here or in Italy -- has been at small "mom & pop" operations where simple food is expertly prepared using fresh ingredients for a price that is no more (and often less) than Olive garden and the other crap-food chain restaurants.

67 posted on 07/10/2014 10:42:43 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: C19fan

Here, you can’t get pizza from the oven by the slice, lunch for $8. Not a sandwich from a deli

There is one restaurant in this city that I know of to go with family where they are cooking In the back

The higher end chain restaurant you can’t walk out of for under $40 and the food is not good. Those places are not doing well. They are a rip off


68 posted on 07/10/2014 10:49:47 AM PDT by stanne
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To: C19fan
I grew up with authentic Italian places being run by old Italians who's grand-children still spoke with heavy Italian accents. I know what the difference between Northern, Central and Southern styles and can cook in all of them. That being said, the best Italian place I've ever eaten in was (and is) owned by Croatians, and the two Olive Gardens in my area here aren't horrible. McItalian is a good description, but there is worse food then McDonalds.

There are "authentic" Italian places that are far far worse than Olive Garden. These are the kind of places that serve Chicken Parm on a bed of sautéed onions, have one type of sauce they call "gravy" and have no idea what you are talking about if you ask if it's Marinara or Bolognese sauce. Of course there are a lot of people that pile on to bad mouth Olive Garden that has never had authentic Italian food and couldn't tell good from bad if their lives depended on it.

69 posted on 07/10/2014 10:50:37 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Labyrinthos
Some of the best Italian food that I have ever had -- here or in Italy -- has been at small "mom & pop" operations

Last time I went to one of those the food was OK (not great) for what little there was of it and the price was extremely high for what I got. Maybe it's just living in Atlanta.

70 posted on 07/10/2014 11:29:40 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Labyrinthos

Why would a tourist go to Olive Garden? Don’t they crack open a Fodor’s Guide? I’m not questioning you, of course, you’re probably right. But then tourists go to restaurants in Times Square and think they’re getting a NY experience, I guess.


71 posted on 07/10/2014 11:35:34 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Durus

It’s really Italian-American food we’re talking about not Italian. I’m not a fan of Chicken Parm (I guess my Jewish ancestry of not mixing meat and dairy) but what’s wrong with it being on a bed of onions? It may not be Italian but it may well be Italian-American. In fact, it sounds like something they’d do in Philly. Piling food on top of food has always been one of the staples of that type of cooking.


72 posted on 07/10/2014 11:40:24 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Sambucca? That’s an anise-based liquor. Also Amaro.

Spumoni and Tortoni are very old-fashioned desserts that are rarely served in Italian restaurants in the northeast. Once my husband’s restaurant catered an affair and he had to search all over NYC to find a vendor for Tortoni. I loved it as a kid.


73 posted on 07/10/2014 11:46:10 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“Once you’ve had real Italian food you won’t ever go to OG anymore!”

I would likely agree with you on that. I’ve always told myself that the next time I’m in Philly, I’m gonna head out to South Philly and try to find one of those mom and pop Italian restaurants.

I’ve heard that even as South Philly becomes less Italian, there are still a number of those type of restaurants in that part of the city.


74 posted on 07/10/2014 11:57:55 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Pox

“A little over 15 years ago Olive Garden changed their recipes and that was a bad idea.”

I don’t recall there ever being a substantial change in the menu. It’s almost always (at least to me) been pretty much the same menu - albeit with occasional new offerings.

What was the old menu like?


75 posted on 07/10/2014 12:02:00 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Red Badger
Wouldn’t waste a penne on them.................

*snicker*

76 posted on 07/10/2014 12:06:00 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: MplsSteve

Most of the time the mom-n-pop restaurants are the best no matter what kind of food you want.


77 posted on 07/10/2014 12:13:50 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: MplsSteve
It wasn't the items on the menu that changed, it was how they were made and what they were made with. It was a distinct difference, and not for the better.

I used to eat their frequently, and get carry out often. As an example, their Alfredo sauce was very well made prior to the wholesale change to their recipes, but afterwords was not even a close facsimile to their previous product. I used to order just their Alfredo sauce for takeout and make my own dishes with it. After the change, I won't bother as the product has been inferior ever since.

They ruined their Manicotti. It's nowhere near as good as they used to make it. Most of my favorite dishes were “ruined” when this change took place as far as I'm concerned, and I almost never eat there anymore, and when I do, I'm always disappointed as I remember when their food used to be so much better.

78 posted on 07/10/2014 12:27:03 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox
reminds me.

When I was a kid I lived on a quiet dead end street but it was a busy part of town. AT the top of the street where it intersects with the main road was a church and a donut shop.

The original owner made the best donuts I ever had. I have never ever had donuts any where near as good as those for the rest of my life. And I have tried a LOT of donuts.

The donuts were so good that kids all up and down the street went to church on Sunday because they would be given one for showing up. Seriously!

Ted's Dutch-Made Donuts... I miss them!

79 posted on 07/10/2014 12:34:19 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: miss marmelstein

The curiosity got the better of me.

It was Fermet. It’s an herbal liquor served after dinner. Nasty stuff, unless it was served, or I was drinking it, incorrectly.

Sambucca’s definitely in that class, as is Cognac, Armagnac, etc.


80 posted on 07/10/2014 12:48:09 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (.)
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