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New pressures for special prosecutor on IRS scandal
Washington Examiner ^ | July 10 2014 | Washington Examiner

Posted on 07/10/2014 8:18:51 AM PDT by PoloSec

The fundamental question about the IRS targeting the president’s political enemies is whether it was corruption or incompetency. A newly obtained email from the central figure in the scandal, former IRS executive Lois Lerner, isn’t helping the administration’s claim that the abuses were unintentional: “I was cautioning folks about email and how we have had several occasions where Congress has asked for emails and there has been an electronic search for responsive emails -- so we need to be cautious about what we say in emails,” Lerner wrote to a colleague before the scandal went public. Lerner goes on inquire about whether members of Congress could get access to an instant messaging system used by the agency. Not only does this suggest bad motives but casts further shadows on the agency’s claims that emails from Lerner and other figures in the targeting scandal were accidentally lost in a computer crash and are unrecoverable. Given Lerner’s apparent effort to obstruct investigators, the administration’s long-silent internal investigation looks less and less credible.


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1 posted on 07/10/2014 8:18:51 AM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

The fundamental question about the IRS targeting the president’s political enemies is whether it was corruption or incompetency.


Clearly, there was both.


2 posted on 07/10/2014 8:21:41 AM PDT by boycott
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I would love to see Lerner frog-marched, in handcuffs! It’s time!


3 posted on 07/10/2014 8:25:38 AM PDT by Gunpowder green
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To: PoloSec
the administration’s long-silent internal investigation looks less and less credible.

Ya, think? ROTFLMAO

4 posted on 07/10/2014 8:25:59 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: PoloSec

Actually the fundamental question is whether there is anything that would move Obama or (yes I’m dreaming) Eric Holder on his own to give the go ahead to the appointment of a Special Prosecuter?

The answer is NO.


5 posted on 07/10/2014 8:31:29 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: PoloSec

Unless I’m mistaken congress can appoint a special prosecutor. So, if they have the power to do that why haven’t they? If ever anything deserved one this is it.


7 posted on 07/10/2014 8:37:06 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: PoloSec

This cries out for a special prosecutor, what’s the wait?


8 posted on 07/10/2014 8:39:20 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: boycott

Agreed!
Is it competent for a criminal thug to warn about emails -—
IN AN EMAIL???


9 posted on 07/10/2014 8:39:30 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: InterceptPoint

Actually the fundamental question is whether there is anything that would move Obama or (yes I’m dreaming) Eric Holder on his own to give the go ahead to the appointment of a Special Prosecutor?

Actually the answer is yes, if in fact this administration
didn’t have anything to do with the targeting.
Don’t look for a special prosecutor any time soon.


10 posted on 07/10/2014 8:51:21 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Gunpowder green
I would love to see Lerner frog-marched, in handcuffs! It’s time!

Issa hasn't the gonads to do what the American public wants. He is worthless if by now he must realize his game is useless without the force of jail right now.

11 posted on 07/10/2014 8:52:56 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me

He’s got the force of jail if he chooses to use it, Congress even has a couple of jail cells on site. But you’re right, he hasn’t got the gonads.


12 posted on 07/10/2014 8:57:52 AM PDT by Gunpowder green
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To: InterceptPoint
"is anything that would move Obama or (yes I’m dreaming) Eric Holder on his own to give the go ahead to the appointment of a Special Prosecuter? The answer is NO."

An independent prosecutor would bring down the house of cards. If they pick an SP, it'll be one who's very savvy and they have complete control over (through blackmail or threat of harm to them and their family). The GOPe will approve of the person without reservation.

13 posted on 07/10/2014 9:01:28 AM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: PoloSec

Valerie Plame got one and he knew the outcome even before he started the investigation. He was able to “trap” Sotter Libby into a “LIE”, so called. The RATS know how to play for keeps, the Gelding Old Party not so much.


14 posted on 07/10/2014 9:05:59 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cubs Fan

According to this:

www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43112.pdf

Congress has no authority to appoint a special prosecutor, or any other such prosecutor. Congress can pass laws that govern the appointment of such prosecutors, but not appoint one on their own.

I am not an expert in this area, but I do suspect that a large part of the frustration voiced here at FR about congress “not doing anything” stems from the idea that the House of Representatives has the authority to appoint a special prosecutor. They do not, at least that is my (unexpert) reading of the link.

If there are any real consitutional lawyers out there who can clarify, please weigh in on this matter.


15 posted on 07/10/2014 9:08:12 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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To: InterceptPoint
The Court system can handle the IRS issue.

There are several cases in the Courts already, and neither Holder or Obama have any say in those cases at all.

16 posted on 07/10/2014 9:12:40 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Cubs Fan

NO, Congress alone can not appoint a special prosecutor.


17 posted on 07/10/2014 9:13:34 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: PoloSec

As soon as the RATs are told that the special prosecutor will be of their choice they will be OK with it.


18 posted on 07/10/2014 9:20:22 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Cap Huff
If, as President, Mr. Obama can spend money, raise taxes and conduct unreasonable searches and seizures without any authority given by Congress, I would think, especially if one sees the Constitution as a living document, that the Legislative Branch, especially the House of Representatives could select and empower a Special Prosecutor, especially since the jail cells are already in the Capitol building.
The relevant Federal Court hearing is going on right now. It started at 8AM EDT, in the courtroom of Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, and is targeted at the missing, hidden or destroyed IRS emails and accompanying perjury and obstruction of justice.
If anyone can find any ongoing coverage of the hearing, please post it.
TWB
19 posted on 07/10/2014 10:09:36 AM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin, the Flame of the North)
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To: TWhiteBear

I hear what you are saying about congress. If the president can violate the constitution and get away with it, the congress can also make things up as they go along too.

That is the sort of dilemma discussed at great length over at Belmont Club in regard to the “war on terror.” If one side of a conflict persistently violates certain limits of behavior, eventually the other side may be compelled to violate those limits of behavior. Part of the dilemma in that scenario is that transgressing those limits on both sides may have even worse consequences.

I stand for the Constitution. My oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution has no expiration date. I do not want to confront a breech of the Constitution with another breech of the Constitution. What then are we fighting for? It is intensely frustrating, but I don’t have an easy answer for it.

I doubt the Judicial Watch case will have any kind of live coverage. I am eager to hear what the outcome is. If I remember correctly this judge is the one who was rather tough on the prosecutors in the Senator Stevens case. I think tomorrow’s motion has to do with the True the Vote suit, and I believe also has to do with the destruction of evidence and expedited discovery. Let’s hope they both go in our direction.


20 posted on 07/10/2014 11:42:30 AM PDT by Cap Huff
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