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Self-described “Liberal” Millennials are Actually Libertarian
Townhall.com ^ | July 14, 2014 | Cathy Reisenwitz

Posted on 07/14/2014 6:21:19 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: jurroppi1

“One cannot be socially liberal on the policy side whilst being fiscally conservative. These are diametrically opposed philosophies.”

Bingo!

Open borders = Millions of unskilled morons that don’t speak English with 8 kids drawing welfare.

The Libtardians will say...Oh, but we want to end welfare. Like that would ever happen.


21 posted on 07/14/2014 7:09:42 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: jurroppi1
One cannot be socially liberal on the policy side whilst being fiscally conservative. These are diametrically opposed philosophies.

In order to be socially liberal the policy maker has to extract largesse from the public coffer to promote said socially liberal programs.

How does, for example, "stop arresting people for selling, buying, or using marijuana" require extracting largesse from the public coffer?

22 posted on 07/14/2014 7:19:37 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Beagle8U

Contrast the article in this thread (the one we are commenting on) with this: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3179982/posts and you will see the ring of truth to the rest of my original post on this thread.

Millenials appear to have no clue!


23 posted on 07/14/2014 7:19:42 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Your example is a non-sequitur. Not enforcing laws does not extract money from the coffer, but enforcing bad law or perceived bad law does. On that front we should be repealing bad law because it runs afoul of good common sense.

Whatever side of the drug legalization fence you sit on, there are real social impacts either way. Uniform law applied in a non-uniform matter tends to de-emphasize the propriety or lack thereof WRT laws.

The surest way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it vigorously.


24 posted on 07/14/2014 7:25:23 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: cripplecreek
Unfortunately we have both democrats and republicans desperately trying to drive a wedge between conservatives and libertarians.

Not to mention the clique of about a half dozen or so on this site who have the same agenda.

Sometimes I wonder if they are actually clever agent provocateurs...
25 posted on 07/14/2014 7:26:04 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead
Sometimes I wonder if they are actually clever agent provocateurs.

A couple definitely are. All one needs to do is step outside the echo chamber to recognize how much BS there is flying around.
26 posted on 07/14/2014 7:42:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

False, social liberalism makes small government impossible.

The key to smaller government is who gave it to us in the first place and fights for it today, social conservatives.

Social liberals are overwhelmingly liberal voters.


27 posted on 07/14/2014 7:44:51 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Funny someone just mentioned you. LOL


28 posted on 07/14/2014 7:46:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

Unfortunately we have libertarians trying to convince conservatives to move left and become more liberal, and it is being done by people called “libertarian”, not conservative, and for a reason.


29 posted on 07/14/2014 7:47:16 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ConservingFreedom; jurroppi1

“How does, for example, “stop arresting people for selling, buying, or using marijuana” require extracting largesse from the public coffer?”

Someone has to support the dopers, and that falls on those who work for a living.

Case in point...The Washington state moron who was on TV bragging how he bought the first legal sack of dope. He was promptly fired from his job.

But he said it was worth it to be the 1st legal pothead!


30 posted on 07/14/2014 7:51:54 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: cripplecreek

“Most that I know”.

Yet the actual libertarian position is open borders and we know why, all they care about are money issues and promoting some fantasy that social liberalism and open borders lead to right wing voters who will fight for smaller government, and that the way to defend America is to lose the ability to defend it.


31 posted on 07/14/2014 7:54:21 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: cripplecreek

Wow, going personal already?


32 posted on 07/14/2014 7:55:58 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

So yes, if one considers socialized medicine as a Socially Liberal issue (as I do) support for it runs diectly counter to Fiscal Conservatism.

Which illustrates pretty well how fluid and complex the language of political and ideological differences has become. Essentially we’re defining ourselves and each other by simplistic labels that really don’t express how close together or wide apart we can be on specific issues.


33 posted on 07/14/2014 7:55:59 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: ansel12

Talk to someone who respects your kind.


34 posted on 07/14/2014 7:58:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Beagle8U

Leaving off the part where he’s now on welfare until he can find a new job. Which given his new notariety may be a long time.


35 posted on 07/14/2014 7:59:03 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: bamahead

Are you under the impression that FR is no longer conservative and is now libertarian, and so we conservatives cannot challenge what is presented in this article of how Millennials are too liberal for conservatism and are more liberation?

This is what we see from liberals, rinos, romneybots, Paulites, and libertarians, that now the conservatives at this conservative site, are the problem.


36 posted on 07/14/2014 8:01:17 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: tanknetter

Social liberalism only creates more liberal voters and reduces the pool of conservative voters.


37 posted on 07/14/2014 8:02:52 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: cripplecreek

LOL, purely personal.


38 posted on 07/14/2014 8:03:25 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: tanknetter

The bottom line is very few companies will employ those that use drugs, their insurance companies would charge double.

The reason companies can’t fill jobs is they can’t find job seekers that can pass a whiz-quiz.


39 posted on 07/14/2014 8:06:01 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: RIghtwardHo

All we have to do is look at which lever Millennials pull when they are in the voting booth, and it isn’t against the left.

That is the libertarian argument, for us to join the left in social liberalism, and the parties fight over taxes, which is very close to the traditional rino position.


40 posted on 07/14/2014 8:08:41 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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