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The Border and Obama
TIME ^ | July 17, 2014 | By Joe Klein

Posted on 07/17/2014 7:34:55 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Jim from C-Town
Thanks for the help getting rid of Obama. I am sure you sleep well at night knowing that a scary Mormon isn’t in the Oval Office, but a knucklehead Madrasa educated Socialist is. After all, look at how badly the Mormons have screwed up Utah. It is barely livable. I think you are prejudiced against Mormons, much like the KKK is bigoted against Catholics. I think you did an immense evil by not voting for Romney. It is your type of thinking that is responsible for the second Obama term. I wasn’t a Romney guy, nor was I a McCain guy in 2008, or for that matter a GWB guy in 2000. That being said, I did what was necessary to keep the truly evil out of the oval office

Your prejudice is apparent in that I am to be misunderstood and excoriated because I deprecate the Mormons making Jesus and Lucifer as brothers.

However, it is YOUR right to take exception. I still wish YOU and YOURS, as I wish the same for all the Mormon, ALL the blessings, peace and grace of our good Lord.

21 posted on 07/19/2014 6:00:28 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: 43north
I believe that he won the 2008 election but massive voter fraud in Cleveland, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia gave him a plurality of votes in the 2012 election. He is as illegitimate as could be.

What is so scary is that in our country (with Canada, Australia and Europe) there is as free a vote as there can be. The rest of the world has no free vote.

We moan, groan and gripe about our voting outcomes but in other places there IS no voter outcome other than what the people in power want there to be. Less than half of those with the eligibility to vote DO vote in our representative republic, so REALLY a very small number of people decide on who governs (and thereby TAXES)us.

Nice to be so spoiled. Sad that relatively so few people are interested in who governs/taxes us.

22 posted on 07/19/2014 6:29:55 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: doug from upland
Many of those voters were conservatives who stayed home so they could teach a lesson. Quite a lesson. If a candidate is not pure enough, we will just stay home and let the other guy in. Unfortunately, the other guy was Barrack HUSSEIN Obama, who was given four more years to destroy the country. Maybe they can teach another lesson and give us Hillary for 8 years to complete the destruction of our nation. That will show ‘em.

WELL put.

23 posted on 07/19/2014 6:31:07 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
You decided not to vote in a Presidential election where a person of such low moral character as Obama was in direct competition with a man who, though certainly imperfect, would have been a significant improvement, simply because he was a Mormon. If that isn't prejudiced, the term has no meaning.

Own it. You refused to vote for someone because you have an inherent prejudice against his Mormon faith. Many millions refused to vote for Romney because they thought he was a RINO, or because he was a Northern Elitist from Massachusetts , but you deliberately stated you with held your vote specifically because of an article of his personal faith.

” How could I vote for a person who believed that? Faith won out for me. I left the vote blank.”

Now your vote may not have made a difference in and of itself, but multiplied by millions it makes Obama the Commander in Chief for four more years of dismal.

24 posted on 07/19/2014 6:54:08 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
Faith won out over politics.
My faith IS actually MORE important than politics.
Maybe your politics trump your faith. They don't for me.

Maybe YOU don't allow others the freedom of expression and choice that others allow you!

Matthew 6:19-21
19 “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.
21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

25 posted on 07/19/2014 7:18:34 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

I understand that your bigotry prevented you from voting in an election that required critical, rational thought.

That is your right. No one requires that a person do what they do not want to do. The fact is that you where motivated to act, or not act, by personal animus of a person who held a different religious belief.

You decided it was better to vote in, by default, the greater evil. A person who certainly disdained your form of religion and actively works to destroy it, instead of voting for a person who was at worst neutral on other peoples religious beliefs and would have worked to protect the religious practices of all.

Sell it in whatever you want, it was not religious conviction that caused you to not vote for Romney and instead not vote at all, it was religious bigotry.

Stop hiding behind religious verse that is irrelevant in a secular election against two political opponents. As a religious person you are compelled to participate in the Civil Society. It is only by great good fortune and God’s good will that we have the ability to chose our leaders. To decide not to do so is itself ungrateful and a shirking of ones own moral requirements.

An attitude like yours would find it difficult to vote for anyone that doesn’t have the exact religious beliefs and political views you hold. That is a very difficult proposition in a two party system.


26 posted on 07/19/2014 7:59:50 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

If I am presented with 2 candidates I have nothing in common with, I will refrain from supporting either of them.


27 posted on 07/19/2014 8:02:10 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

As is your right.

That being the case, please, pick yourself up and get in the game. Start a candidacy for office. Get elected to a position from which you can yourself create policy. Beyond that we are in for a situation where we will be given a choice between two less than perfect candidates, EVERY TIME.

When presented with two bad options we are compelled by our need for an ordered society to make the pick the better of two bad choices. No one of any real conviction could ever delude themselves that Romney would have be worse than Obama.


28 posted on 07/19/2014 8:08:40 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

I am not voting for a certified lying leftist even if he ran against Satan. I don’t have a dog in that fight. I could not live with myself voting for a pro-gay, pro-abortion, pro-gov care leftist like Romney.

Sorry.

The fault is his and his party that he lost. It is not my fault that they chose such a lousy candidate.

It’s that simple.

If they choose a lousy candidate they lose. It is not my fault or anyone else’s that he lost. It is their own fault.

They do not own me, they do not own my vote, I have duty to vote for a candidate I dislike, distrust and disagree with.

Romney lost because Romney was a bad candidate, period.


29 posted on 07/19/2014 8:13:11 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

If you vote in Republican primaries, you either voted for or against the party nominee. If you did not vote in the primary, than you by default made Romney the Party candidate.

Regardless, once the nominee is decided, we have a responsibility as sane people to make a distinction. As for what you say of Romney, much of it may be true, but much may not. What is true is that Obama is much closer to Satan than Romney and is an economic illiterate into the bargain.

So many people decided to teach the Republican Party a lesson and the greater American Society as a whole by withholding their vote. Unfortunately, we all suffer and often the lesson remains unlearned. Such is the case with many a pudlik skool student. Those same lesson teachers are often the most shrill in their denouncements of Obama and his policies. That smacks of obtuseness, it is the height of mental masturbation. They attack what they by default promote.


30 posted on 07/19/2014 8:35:05 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

I didn’t decide to “teach the Republican Party a lesson”

I decided I was not a Republican.


31 posted on 07/19/2014 8:38:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Jim from C-Town

God bless you and yours.


32 posted on 07/19/2014 8:39:10 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: GeronL

Fine, feel free to revel in your irrelevance.


33 posted on 07/19/2014 8:40:14 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: cloudmountain

Right back at ya!


34 posted on 07/19/2014 8:40:48 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Thank you.


35 posted on 07/19/2014 8:45:05 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Jim from C-Town

Mitt Romney is the one that is irrelevant, keep beating that drum though


36 posted on 07/19/2014 10:06:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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