Malaysian passenger plane crashes in Ukraine near Russian border: Ifax

Reuters ^ | 17 July 2014 | Alissa de Carbonne

[TomGuy]

Streaming reports

http://rt.com/on-air/rt-america-air/

http://wwitv.com/tv_channels/b6215.htm
[RT American]

[SeekAndFind]

Looking at the Malaysia Airlines international route map, the flight was almost certainly headed to Europe. The map doesn’t show any of those routes flying over the Russia-Ukraine border but perhaps that’s due to projecting the routes on a flat map rather than a globe.

[P-Marlowe]

Obviously another mechanical accidental electrical center fuel tank explosion.

Nothing to see here.

Move along.

[jpsb]

Someone posted air to air. Air to air makes more sense. Of course the Russian military is more then capable of making the shot, but one would think the Russian military would ID the plane as a cruising commercial jetliner. Dido air to air, maybe an on board bomb?

[txhurl]

So... a simple ‘oops’ is going to be accepted here?

[kristinn]

Image from the Tweet you linked to:

[Cyman]

It would take a pretty good missile to shoot down a 777 at 35,000 ft traveling 500 knts.

First thing that popped into my mind also. One of the original news breaks identified it as “ a hand held missile”. I know some of Freepers are very familiar with this technology, is it possible to bring down an airliner with a hand held? Or does it require a much more sophisticated system?

[TomGuy]

RT American:

Malaysian Airlines confirms by Twitter that one of their planes is ‘lost’.

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Presumption that all aboard have died.

[Dog]

Coming from Europe...

[Uncle Chip]

It’s being reported on a CBS radio station here that a missile brought it down.

[ScaniaBoy]

The Fingerpointing Begins: Ukraine Accuses Rebels Of Shooting Down Airplane, Rebels Deny

*UKRAINE REBELS SHOT DOWN MALAYSIAN PLANE, GERASHCHENKO SAYS; But

*DONETSK SEPARATISTS SAY NOT INVOLVED IN PLANE CRASH: INTERFAX

All 280 passengers and 15 crew were killed in the crash. The Malaysian Airlines jet was shot down by the BUK Missile System according to Interfax.

(BUK Missile System according to Wiki altitude range of 25k.)

[mware]

Prayers for those on board, any word on where they were heading?

[two23]

Missile—thats what Skynews is reporting according to Ukraine minister of something

[JimSEA]

Another “Sinking of the RMS Lusitania” type controversy. Whether or not Russia did it, the ball is in Putin’s court.

[Dog]

MANPADs could do it...stinger maybe.

[kabar]

The forgotten story of Iran Air Flight 655--

Toward the end of the war, on July 3, 1988, a U.S. Navy ship called the Vincennes was exchanging fire with small Iranian ships in the Persian Gulf. The U.S. Navy kept ships there, and still does, to protect oil trade routes. As the American and Iranian ships skirmished, Iran Air Flight 655 took off from nearby Bandar Abbas International Airport, bound for Dubai. The airport was used by both civilian and military aircraft. The Vincennes mistook the lumbering Airbus A300 civilian airliner for a much smaller and faster F-14 fighter jet, perhaps in the heat of battle or perhaps because the flight allegedly did not identify itself. It fired two surface-to-air missiles, killing all 290 passengers and crew members on board.

[wdk535]

Don’t suppose this is what happened to flight 370?

[mware]

Petroleum and heating fuel is going to go sky high in Europe.

[yield 2 the right]

You have to be kidding me. Shot down is what I heard. Is that confirmed?

[machogirl]

KLM flies a very similar route on their Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/KLM809/history/20140716/1850Z/EHAM/WMKK