[greyfoxx39]

we know what religion Reid and Hatch are. I’d be willing to bet money that the rest of them are also LDS. Mormon Mafia anyone? There’s crooks in every religion.

Swallow and Shurtleff are both mormon.

Could Mormon church excommunicate Shurtleff, Swallow?

"A church disciplinary council is mandatory in cases of murder, incest, child abuse, apostasy, serious transgressions while holding a prominent church position and predatory behavior.

Serious transgressions, which the Handbook defines as "deliberate and major offense[s] against morality," include but are not limited to "attempted murder, forcible rape, sexual abuse, spouse abuse, intentional serious physical injury of others, adultery ... deliberate abandonment of family responsibilities, robbery, burglary, theft, embezzlement, sale of illegal drugs, fraud, perjury and false swearing."

[vette6387]

“we know what religion Reid and Hatch are. I’d be willing to bet money that the rest of them are also LDS. Mormon Mafia anyone? There’s crooks in every religion.”

And it looks as though the Mormon Church is an “equal opportunity supporter” of crooks on both sides of the political aisle. I have wondered for many years, how Reid managed to remain a member in good standing, because even a non-member doing a cursory review of Mormon teachings on morality would come away with the hard fact that Reid is an apostate Mormon who should have been excommunicated long ago.
The answer: Money and power! Churches all roll over for either, and Reid has both!

[Osage Orange]

Ha!!!

I'd guess as long as the money is flowing..then LDS, Inc...turns a blind eye.

Ping me...if anything other than that happens.........

[Zakeet]

Could the Mormon Church excommunicate ...

"A church disciplinary council is mandatory in cases of murder, incest, child abuse, apostasy, serious transgressions while holding a prominent church position and predatory behavior.

Serious transgressions, which the Handbook defines as "deliberate and major offense[s] against morality," include but are not limited to "attempted murder, forcible rape, sexual abuse, spouse abuse, intentional serious physical injury of others, adultery ... deliberate abandonment of family responsibilities, robbery, burglary, theft, embezzlement, sale of illegal drugs, fraud, perjury and false swearing."

A better question is would the Mormon Church excommunicate a leader guilty of those crimes. Their history provides a clear answer.

Joseph Smith held a prominent church position and was a murderer (Missouri Mormon Wars), attempted murderer (Lilburn Boggs), rapist and adulterer (see Todd Compton's In Sacred Loneliness for a list of at least 33 plural wives in addition to Emma and a description of the techniques he used to seduce them), pedophile (at least six underage plural wives), robber and thief (Kirtland Safety Society, Missouri raids, Nauvoo land flips ... among others), who committed incest and child abuse (Fanny Alger) and false swearing ("I'm greater than Jesus" ... in addition to dozens of documented lies), etc. The Saints never called him before a church disciplinary council.

Brigham Young held a prominent church position and was a mass murderer (Illinois Mormon Wars, Utah War of 1857, Mountain Meadow Massacre, Aiken Party Massacre, Blood Atonement), adulterer (at least 55 plural wives), and robber (taking of land, "sale" of property and water rights, 10 percent silent partner on hundreds of deals), etc. The Saints never called him before a church disciplinary council.

Based on their record, I predict the LDS Church will never drop the nuclear bomb on Dirty Harry ... unless and until his cost (measured in terms of embarrassment and loss of membership) outweighs his benefit ... which, given his position and ability to distribute government favors such as doling out cash and calling off the dogs, is pretty close to nil.

[Elsie]

Swallow and Shurtleff are both mormon.

NOW you've done it!

Don't you KNOW we can't report a person's religion if they've been accused of a crime?

The Ronnie Haskell thread got yanked that mentioned that HE; too; was (is?) a Mormon.