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To: drypowder

The major flaw of Cloward and Piven is that they planned for a collapse and a strategy to achieve it, but never explained what they imagine will happen after the collapse.

Third world dictatorships are great for the handful at the top who wield all the power and have all the money. For everyone else, they are miserable. Why anyone would want such a system is incomprehensible. We can only hope that the low information voters who have enabled the Cloward Piven strategy realize that the left emotionally manipulated them to get their vote... but the fact that they are so open to being manipulated means they are unlikely to recognize that it is happening.


8 posted on 07/17/2014 3:49:49 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: exDemMom
Why anyone would want such a system is incomprehensible.

Security and civil order versus chaos and strife. If the country descends into riots and chaos, the man on horseback looks very attractive.,

9 posted on 07/17/2014 4:04:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: exDemMom

Cloward is dead as a hammer I understand but Piven is still walking around, that and the fact that Bill Ayers is also among the quick amazes me.

My neighbor was telling me about another Malaysian airliner going down and a lady I know felt she also had to tell me and show her concern. I told them both that I did not know anyone on it and really do not care about this. Call me hardhearted.

The American people have an attention span of roughly 12 minutes which I think is the average between tv commercials, my opinion is that we were trained by the tv, luckily I read and we only had tv occasionally.

I think this was intentional and also explains many peoples instant gratification problem, short marriages, low savings rate, unruly kids, and the insane belief in global warming. Remember pet rocks? Only a society with an average IQ of room temperature would have fallen for that. By the way I do have one for sale still in its box.

The people that have fallen for the left’s constant pandering are like one of the old 33 records with a scratch that repeats over and over the same snatch of song, as the General said, they are stuck on stupid.


15 posted on 07/17/2014 5:06:03 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: exDemMom

“The major flaw of Cloward and Piven is that they planned for a collapse and a strategy to achieve it, but never explained what they imagine will happen after the collapse.

Third world dictatorships are great for the handful at the top who wield all the power and have all the money. For everyone else, they are miserable. Why anyone would want such a system is incomprehensible. We can only hope that the low information voters who have enabled the Cloward Piven strategy realize that the left emotionally manipulated them to get their vote... but the fact that they are so open to being manipulated means they are unlikely to recognize that it is happening.”

OTOH if it happens soon, there will be enough of us that remember the Constitution and history. Not to mention that we are we’ll-armed. Extremely we’ll-armed.

It could backfire on them.


26 posted on 07/17/2014 9:09:37 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: exDemMom

Years ago in college I had a known socialist as my surveying instructor. I usually rode with him when we went to the outdoor work area which he owned. He liked to give us young guys talks on the benefits of a socialistic society. During one such time he was telling us that society was ruled by a few powerful people. As I recall he believed that the industrialists of the day were the evil society. When I countered that he was just proposing that a different group should be the powerful he cut off the discussion.


46 posted on 07/18/2014 7:36:04 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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