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To: reaganaut1
When you harm those you intend to help...

Right there is the problem. Who says the programs are intended to help? When viewed from the perspective that the programs are intended to create a dependent class that will vote for you 90+% of the time, then the programs are spectacularly successful. Why would those who put the programs in place and benefit from them to such extreme have ANY incentive to change them?

2 posted on 07/18/2014 11:05:24 AM PDT by Armando Guerra
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To: Armando Guerra

GOVERNOR Ronald Reagan of California said, as a guest on an old, old Johnny Carson show that the Social Services Welfare department lived in total terror at the thought of welfare receipients ever working their way off of welfare.
If the wonderful circumstance ever arose, it would then be the welfare workers collecting welfare.
Reagan receive a thunderous round of applause.


3 posted on 07/18/2014 11:15:14 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: Armando Guerra

Ah, for a very few, yes, the intent was to actually enslave these people in bondage to the gov’t.

But for most sheeperals, it really wasn’t about harming, nor about helping, the people they stated that they intended to help.

It was about making THEMSELVES feel good for WANTING to “help”.


4 posted on 07/18/2014 11:17:46 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Armando Guerra

Those programs are not designed to help. That is simply the rhetoric on the sales brochure. They’re really designed to subjugate.


5 posted on 07/18/2014 11:18:48 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Armando Guerra

[ Right there is the problem. Who says the programs are intended to help? When viewed from the perspective that the programs are intended to create a dependent class that will vote for you 90+% of the time, then the programs are spectacularly successful. Why would those who put the programs in place and benefit from them to such extreme have ANY incentive to change them? ]

I would rather pay TWICE as much in taxes if all our social programs were judiciously policed (ie fraud was constantly being rooted out) and only the people who needed the supposed program were the only ones who ever got aid and those who didn’t actually need it were getting tossed out of the welfare office on their behinds and all the extra cost was for the hiring of fraud and investiogations officers.

But then again that wouldn’t serve the demonrats need for simple lever pulling voters....


7 posted on 07/18/2014 11:23:16 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Armando Guerra

Bureaucracy is constitutionally incapable of solving societal or personal human problems. The a priori principle of a bureaucracy is to sustain itself and grow. It is incapable of working itself out of an area of responsibility. This is precisely why we see social services increase as time goes on. The practice of compassion by government is to increase need in order to justify increases in funding. Bureaucracy always increases dependency. It never reduces it.
The bottom line is government has no business in the social service industry. It ought never be the job of government to help anyone. The government exists to provide military force against the country’s enemies and to protect the nation’s borders. Federal government has no other Constitutional activities. Our government as currently constructed is in flagrant violation of the Constitution.


10 posted on 07/18/2014 1:00:58 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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