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MH17 Crash: Route Used Was Safe, Says Liow
Malaysia Star ^ | Friday July 18, 2014

Posted on 07/18/2014 1:35:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: tiger63

The only similarity between the two flight paths is that they briefly converged at Warsaw, Poland while going East on the same day. Far away from Ukraine.

Use your common sense. Just how likely is Putin going to fly his private jet right over a country with which he has been antagonizing? Even RT (which began the propaganda you’re unwittingly regurgitating) admitted Putin hasn’t flown over Ukraine for some time.

I’m sure the Ukrainians were just waiting to shoot down Putin’s jet the next time it flew over Kiev. Not.


41 posted on 07/18/2014 2:42:04 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Cats Pajamas

I thought that the cell phone videos with those drunken Cossacks gloating over the kill were dispositive.


42 posted on 07/18/2014 2:42:45 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Right. Seeing is believing and we know that governments could not possibly collude and cover up don’t we?


43 posted on 07/18/2014 2:54:33 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas
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To: Cats Pajamas

Never mind. I’ll include you in my #36.


44 posted on 07/18/2014 2:56:27 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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LOL. Now I understand your name.


45 posted on 07/18/2014 2:57:36 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas
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A cross appears through the smoke over the devastation in this photo- eerily reminiscent of the 9/11 cross

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(telephone pole, actually- but still eerie)

46 posted on 07/18/2014 4:53:21 PM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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MH17 Crash: Route Used Was Safe, Says Liow

Let's review the issue for a minute.

Liow says the route was safe.
The plane was shot down.

Flying over a war zone.

All aboard died.

Seems they make morons as clueless, arrogant and ignorant in Malaysia as our very own Liar-in-chief!

Think they can also get away with it?

47 posted on 07/18/2014 7:01:05 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Uncle Chip
and how many other airlines had been taking that route???

Evidently a lot more than Malaysia!
Have you seen the Ukraine air traffic map at the time of the shootdown?

Daily Mail News Map, Air Traffic

48 posted on 07/18/2014 7:09:51 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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Look at how close that plane is to the Russian border when shot down.

How do you mistake a plane as military and threatening that has flown 80% of the way across your territory at a fixed 33,000 feet on a fixed path that will be out of your territory in a matter of minutes.


49 posted on 07/18/2014 8:06:54 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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How do you mistake a plane as military and threatening that has flown 80% of the way across your territory at a fixed 33,000 feet on a fixed path that will be out of your territory in a matter of minutes.

Exactly the same way that the USS Vincennes shot down the Iranian airliner in 1988. You are profoundly ignorant of how flight control communications works. All the controllers scattered over thousands of square miles of airspace are not tracking every flight. What you describe is an impossible oversimplification, which is reason enough to wince.
In retrospect, everything you say makes sense. In real life, at any given moment in any heavily trafficked area, not so simple.

The complicating factor seems to be that whoever fired the missiles was even more ignorant of the different frequencies possible to attempt to communicate with a specific aircraft in the area, (a reasonable expectation before shooting down a suspect aircraft) whether the transponder data was even checked (military or civilian?) before making the decision to fire.

I won't even attempt to understand the complexity of the additional time and multiple steps necessary to prepare the missile system to fire, while, presumably, the suspect plane is verified as hostile and threatening. Every aircraft within a hundred miles? I don't think so.

50 posted on 07/18/2014 11:21:26 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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