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To: Uncle Chip
‘We shot down MH17 thinking it was Ukrainian cargo plane’: Sensational admission by pro-Russian”

Then you are a mass murderer.

This is what you get when you put sophisticated weapons in the hands of para-military half-wits! It's completely irresponsible and it IS calculated MURDER.

6 posted on 07/24/2014 7:40:44 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: SMARTY
"‘We shot down MH17 thinking it was Ukrainian cargo plane’: Sensational admission by pro-Russian”. Then you are a mass murderer.

Do you have that short a memory, or a very selective memory, or are wearing blinders, or ???

The following will bring you and other low-information folks up to speed.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Iran Air Flight 655 was an Iran Air civilian passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai that was shot down by the United States Navy guided missile cruiser USS Vincennes on 3 July 1988. The attack took place in Iranian airspace, over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, and on the flight's usual flight path. The aircraft, an Airbus A300 B2-203, was destroyed by SM-2MR surface-to-air missiles fired from the Vincennes.

All 290 on board, including 66 children and 16 crew, died.[1] This attack ranks seventh among the deadliest disasters in aviation history, tenth if including the 9/11 attacks, which includes ground casualties; the incident retains the highest death toll of any aviation incident in the Persian Gulf and the highest death toll of any incident involving an Airbus aircraft anywhere in the world.[2] The Vincennes had entered Iranian territorial waters after one of its helicopters drew warning fire from Iranian speedboats operating within Iranian territorial limits.

According to the Iranian government, Vincennes negligently shot down the civilian aircraft: the airliner was making IFF squawks in Mode III (not Mode II used by Iranian military planes), a signal that identified it as a civilian craft, and operators of Vincennes mistook for Mode II.

According to the United States Government, the crew incorrectly identified the Iranian Airbus A300 as an attacking F-14A Tomcat fighter, a plane made in the United States and operated at that time by only two forces worldwide, the United States Navy and the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force. The Iranian F-14's at that time had no anti-ship capability.

The US Navy had claimed that the Vincennes was defending itself in international waters at the time of the incident. Later disclosures would prove that the Vincennes had entered into Iranian waters and initiated hostilities. This was a key fact that was left out of the public inquiry led by Admiral Fogarty.

The event generated a great deal of controversy and criticism of the United States. Some analysts have blamed U.S. military commanders and the captain of Vincennes for reckless and aggressive behavior in a tense and dangerous environment.

As of 1993, the United States had not apologized to Iran.[8] In 1996, the United States and Iran reached "an agreement in full and final settlement of all disputes, differences, claims, counterclaims" relating to the incident at the International Court of Justice, including an apology in the form of "...the United States recognized the aerial incident of 3 July 1988 as a terrible human tragedy and expressed deep regret over the Loss of lives caused by the incident...".[9] As part of the settlement, the United States did not admit legal liability but agreed to pay US$61.8 million, amounting to $213,103.45 per passenger, in compensation to the families of the Iranian victims.

Iran Air still uses flight number IR655 on the Tehran–Dubai route as a memorial to the victims.

So was Dutch responsible for that shoot down and a mass murderer?

14 posted on 07/24/2014 7:56:14 AM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: SMARTY
Then you are a mass murderer.

Tell it to the skipper!


Captain William C. Rogers III, USN-retired
Commanded the USS Vincennes, 1988

This is what you get when you put sophisticated weapons in the hands of para-military half-wits! It's completely irresponsible and it IS calculated MURDER.

Buk, Aegis ... What difference does it make?

86 posted on 07/24/2014 12:44:50 PM PDT by cynwoody
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