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Ok, so an Article V convention is held. All the states meet, hold a convention, and present terms.

Who is going to draw up the final document? Who is going to sit in meetings and hammer things out?

Your rep, who has a buisnees to run? Mine, who has a large farm? It will be handed to the political “class” and we will wake up with a mess.

I live in Iowa right now. With the Hawk eye Cauci, (as Rush likes to call it) we have a supposed good chance to influence the selection of a presidential candidate.

On paper at least. In actuality, it becomes managed by the Party (GOP or Dem) and the local votes don’t really matter. Only who counts and reports the votes. Last time, it was reported that Romney won by a good margin, when Santorum had. If it wasn’t for the Ron Paul supporters, that would have never been reported.

So what did the GOP do? Change the rules so you don’t get to be present at the counting. Only the party reps can.

When you have corruption like that, there is little hope for change inside the system.

The other peaceful path is what is happening. The Fedgov is so weak, they can not proejct power anymore

You have had to go out of your way this past year to not be familiar with the state amendment process.

States will send delegates with commissions. Commissions set out in precise terms what the delegate may propose and accede to. Delegates are the equivalent of agents with power of attorney to carry out certain duties and no more. The commissions of Indiana and IIRC, Florida include the caveat that if a delegate oversteps his bounds, the state declares his action null and void. In addition, these trusted men or women will face felony charges should they attempt such shenanigans.

I am coming increasingly to suspect that the opposition to the Article V movement from the right comes from the NRA. The supporters of the Second Amendment have somehow got it into their heads that an Article V convention would somehow run away and undermine their rights to keep and bear arms just at a time when it looks like the courts are beginning to actually recognize those rights. The Article V movement represents no realistic threat to The Second Amendment. Contrary to an optimistic view of our recent court decisions, that threat exists and it is growing every day quite robustly without the help of a constitutional amendment.

The reaction by supporters of the NRA is understandable but it is both myopic and selfish.

The Bill of Rights consists of more than just the Second Amendment. Every single amendment which go to make up the Bill of Rights is imperiled by our current course of government. It is illusory to believe that the Second Amendment alone can save the rest of our precious legacy which came to us as birthright. We cannot fight a 21st-century government armed with drones, computers, lasers, air power, and robots with sidearms and hope to preserve a decent society, we can only contrive to disintegrate into terrorism.

Worse, the opposition to the Article V movement by the supporters of the Second Amendment leads them to a level of irrationality against which there is no argument which makes any headway because their commitment is entirely emotional. I understand the emotional attachment to the right to keep and bear arms, to protect oneself with self-defense, to be able to protect one's family, to exercise the liberty of a free man. But there is more to a civil society then the right to bear arms, the right to bear arms is neither a substitute for nor a solution to a new dark age.

To ignore the loss of all our rights save the right to keep and bear arms out of fear of losing the right to keep and bear arms is worse than selfish, worse than irrational, it is ultimately self-defeating.