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Ethanol issue: Explosive for Ted Cruz, Rand Paul
The Hill ^ | 08/06/2014 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 08/06/2014 3:33:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas) and Rand Paul (Ky.) are trying to avoid an ethanol landmine in Iowa.

Both Republican senators have criticized federal subsidies for ethanol, which are popular in Iowa, the state hosting the first Republican contest in the 2016 race for the White House.

Iowa kingmakers in the party such as Sen. Chuck Grassley want the Republican presidential nominee in 2016 to champion ethanol. That’s a problem for Cruz and to a lesser extent for Paul, who are both crisscrossing the state this week in advance of possible campaigns for the presidency.

Cruz has introduced legislation that would repeal the renewable fuel standard over the next five years. The standard mandates that gasoline contain 10 percent ethanol by volume.

“I believe we should pursue an all-of-the-above energy policy and that Washington shouldn’t be picking winners and losers,” he said.

Cruz argues the fuel standard has proven unworkable and costly, according to a summary of his bill.

He says it ignores the problem of an insufficient supply of biofuels to meet the standard.

Paul claims that bureaucratic regulations and corporate subsides have distorted the marketplace and actually made it tougher for energy developers to market new forms of clean energy.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ethanol; farmerfathead; farmpimps; randpaul; subsidies; tedcruz; welfare
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To: PGR88
Iowans are smart enough to understand the waste that is ethanol - and most know they can grow other things as well - wheat, beans, etc...

I don't believe that for a second. Pull away that government teat and watch those "salt of the earth" farmers go nuts like a junky who can't get his fix.
21 posted on 08/06/2014 4:09:27 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: mylife

Unless you’re mowing commercial or have a huge property, it’s hard to imaging the incremental cost for E0 fuel would even show up.


22 posted on 08/06/2014 4:09:31 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: SpaceBar

Big Agriculture....another hog at the crony capitalist trough.


23 posted on 08/06/2014 4:10:38 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just link ethanol subsidies with NPR subsidies. Iowa “problem” solved.


24 posted on 08/06/2014 4:12:00 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: hosepipe
Ethanol is a waste of corn...

I have eliminated grains from my diet. Refined sugar also. Grains cause the inflamation that causes heart disease.

But we should not subsidize ethanol. Or mandate the use of ethanol. Let the market decide.

25 posted on 08/06/2014 4:12:19 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicatedo)
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To: hosepipe

Another reason beef is a gazillion dollars a pound.


26 posted on 08/06/2014 4:15:22 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: SpaceBar

It’s the same in North Dakota. The most “patriotic,” “conservative,” “Constitutionalist” farmers worship government money above all else. They have voted for baby-murderers for the past 40 years because they go to Washington and “fight” for North Dakota.


27 posted on 08/06/2014 4:15:42 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: FatherofFive
I have eliminated grains from my diet. Refined sugar also. Grains cause the inflamation that causes heart disease.

Me, too. The word is spreading. No thanks to Moochelle, who is still yapping about "whole grains" and "heart-healthy oils."

28 posted on 08/06/2014 4:17:41 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d bet that there 10 times as many smart people as there are corn farmers.


29 posted on 08/06/2014 4:18:22 PM PDT by CMailBag
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Paying for that would be more of a one-time subsidy instead of an annual subsidy, right?


30 posted on 08/06/2014 4:23:24 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: nascarnation

Prolly true.

I just hate ethanol!!

Cant find a decent ear of corn anymore at a decent price at any price for that matter here.


31 posted on 08/06/2014 4:26:40 PM PDT by mylife
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
I believe however that it takes more energy to make a gallon of ethanol than you can get out of it.

Bingo! That is why we need to remove the subsidies and laws to mandate its use.

32 posted on 08/06/2014 4:27:31 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicatedo)
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To: ex91B10

Partially true.
Drought in Texas has been a huge factor.


33 posted on 08/06/2014 4:28:18 PM PDT by mylife
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To: nascarnation

Truth is E0 would prolly be a reduction in cost.
Rebuilding replacing carbs and fuel lines all the time, buying Stabil and the like aint cheap


34 posted on 08/06/2014 4:30:51 PM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

Your other option is if you have a general aviation airport close by have them sell you some 100LL. Tell them you’re trying to get your rebuilt Piper Cup in your garage going.


35 posted on 08/06/2014 4:30:57 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: Arthur McGowan
"heart-healthy oils."

I have also eliminated all vegetable oils. The omega 6 oils - ie, vegetables oils - have no place in a healthy diet. Omega 3s, like oilve oil, are best. I fry foods in lard. Tastes great

36 posted on 08/06/2014 4:31:47 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicatedo)
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To: mylife

I’ve used E10 for decades (here in Indiana it was pervasive even back in the 1990s) without any issues. Not sure why.

I know boats in particular have problems with tanks and carbs.


37 posted on 08/06/2014 4:33:01 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: hosepipe

Ethanol is not the whole story with the corn that is used to make the ethanol. All that’s removed from it is the starch. The remainder is protein rich feed, and is processed and fed out to cattle, hogs, etc.

So, when figuring the value, any analysis that doesn’t also include the feed that is made after the alcohol processing is not fairly assessing what the price actually is. See the following:

http://www.americancattlemen.com/articles/ethanol-impact-feed-prices


38 posted on 08/06/2014 4:33:57 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Iowa only maters to the MSM.

Get rid if Ethanol in gas and watch Iowa grow a corn mountain.


39 posted on 08/06/2014 4:36:07 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: rhinohunter

Exactly. This is the problem with the Republican primary system. Unfortunately the elites hold the strings when it comes to deciding the order of primaries.


40 posted on 08/06/2014 4:36:56 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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