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Vladimir Putin Might Fall. We Should Consider What Happens Next.
The New Republic ^ | August 6, 2014 | Julia Ioffe

Posted on 08/07/2014 8:33:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: FreeReign

I believe that, if Obama had Putin’s mannerism, he would have an 80% approval rating, too.

The people in Russia are convinced that Putin loves Russia.

Can we say the same about Obama and his feelings for the US?

Hell, we don’t even know where he is from and he doesn’t want to officially divulge his origins.


21 posted on 08/07/2014 9:26:20 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“might fall”????

With an 85% approval rating?


22 posted on 08/07/2014 10:02:17 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Perdogg

I think I have a better chance with Kate Upton than Putin falling.
*****
Ditto,I second that.

Libs are deluding themselves.


23 posted on 08/07/2014 10:56:57 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Putin is getting desperate. As all of his policies turn to caca, there is a real risk that he will commit further acts of terrorism to punish the world for his failures.


24 posted on 08/07/2014 11:02:11 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It was not Ronald Reagan who brought about the regime’s collapse, nor was it the dissidents, not for all their diligence cobbling together reams of samizdat. It was the economy.

It was Reagan, because it was he who killed the economy by deregulating American oil production, thereby dropping the price, and therefore killing Russian foreign exchange cash flow with which to supply its massive new navy.

25 posted on 08/07/2014 11:20:34 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: Kennard
But James Wormold (of "Our Man in Havana" fame) says we're the lesser of two weevils!!

How could we possibly be ill when everything is going so well?

26 posted on 08/07/2014 11:45:32 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Carry_Okie

The arms race is what bankrupted the USSR in the short term and communism in the long term.


27 posted on 08/08/2014 1:08:59 AM PDT by DB
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm reading Blowing Up Russia by Alexander Litvinenko and Yuri Felshtinsky. Putin came to power on the 1999 Moscow apartment bombings blamed on Chechens. Litvinenko was murdered with Polonium for writing the book from inside knowledge as a Russian intelligence defector.

Putin's last political rival was General Alexander Lebed who died in a helicopter crash in 2003.

Putin's popularity rating has soared of late.

He extracted concessions from Obama regarding European missile defense. Now Obama cuts U.S. defense spending and seeks to reduce the nuclear arsenal.

Russia and China are engaged in energy and arms agreements certain to solidify an anti-American stance.

Europe can be easily blackmailed by energy starvation--look at what Putin's idol Stalin did to Ukraine which Walter Duranty covered up.

Obama's poll numbers fall as his unconstitutional action increases.

Neither Putin nor Obama has any serious threat to power.

Stalin may have said, "(Deleted) the Pope; how many divisions does he have?"

Ukraine disarmed due to promises of Western protection.

We shall see.


28 posted on 08/08/2014 1:33:41 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: GeronL
I hope Putin, the EU and Obama all fall. Best case scenario if you ask me.

Can we throw in the UN for good measure?

29 posted on 08/08/2014 3:14:56 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SatinDoll

You are on target. While Putin tries to recreate old Russia by threatening Western Europe China is eying everything east of the Ural Mountains

Last time the Chinese got a long way west before running out of steam. They may have a 1950’s army but it is much bigger than Russia’s and they can afford huge losses of men and not blink an eye

Vladimir better look over his shoulder


30 posted on 08/08/2014 3:43:23 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Russians was HUMILIATED in the 1990s, when our Cowboy presidents bombed what was Yugoslavia with impunity. Those days are over under Putin and now Russia keeps its powder dry for Europe, playing the tit-for-tat game, until “technical issues” magically take out their natural gas pipelines just as winter is starting to bite. Just watch.

And as others have said, Putin is NOT going anywhere, not with 83% approval.


31 posted on 08/08/2014 4:15:32 AM PDT by BobL
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To: GeronL

“I hope Putin, the EU and Obama all fall. Best case scenario if you ask me.”

Good point...I think Europe has a LOT MORE to worry about than Russia regarding their future - considering their Open Borders (not as bad as ours, but their immigrants mean business).

I suspect that Putin will be sitting tight in power while civil wars start up in Europe.


32 posted on 08/08/2014 4:18:15 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Carry_Okie

“It was Reagan, because it was he who killed the economy by deregulating American oil production, thereby dropping the price, and therefore killing Russian foreign exchange cash flow with which to supply its massive new navy. “

A number of other things too, of course. My favorite was when we figured out the Russians were stealing our software used to run natural gas pumping stations. Rather than stopping them, we simply added a bit of code and let them have it. A bit later the largest recorded non-nuclear explosion occurred west of the Urals. Needless to say, the Russians were done stealing code after that. CIA director William Casey gets credit for that little stunt.


33 posted on 08/08/2014 4:22:27 AM PDT by BobL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So we’re supposed to give him everything he wants to keep him from falling????

Tell him to take out some Obamacare insurance —


34 posted on 08/08/2014 4:44:44 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: DB
The arms race is what bankrupted the USSR in the short term and communism in the long term.

They supported that race just fine when oil was selling for a high price under the Carter Administration.

35 posted on 08/08/2014 6:30:15 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: BobL
My favorite was when we figured out the Russians were stealing our software used to run natural gas pumping stations. Rather than stopping them, we simply added a bit of code and let them have it. A bit later the largest recorded non-nuclear explosion occurred west of the Urals. Needless to say, the Russians were done stealing code after that. CIA director William Casey gets credit for that little stunt.

That was GOOD!!! I'd never heard that story, thanks!

36 posted on 08/08/2014 6:35:25 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: GeronL

So you like the idea of a Red Chinese dominated world?


37 posted on 08/08/2014 6:51:01 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dmz

??

The article said Putin would just be replaced by a carbon copy, so that means it wouldn’t change much.

The EU is nothing, it’s member countries would be better off without it.

The US would thrive if we could throw off Obama and the leftists.


38 posted on 08/08/2014 9:19:10 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I really hope the UN falls, but what would that look like? They don’t actually have anything. They are just a global community organizer of dictators.


39 posted on 08/08/2014 9:34:48 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SatinDoll

If there’s a quart of oil or an ounce of strategic minerals to be mined from the vast expanse of Siberia, Russia will find a way to maintain its control of it.

It’s a petrostate. What I don’t understand about Putin is how he’s learned very little from what the Saudis learned in the 1970’s - if you prove to be an unreliable supplier of energy, your customers will pivot and figure out another way to do it.

The US used to buy as much as 35% of its oil from the Saudis. Today it is 4% and dropping, and on top of that’ we’ve learned to frack.

Now everybody in Western Europe has started fracking, and the US is going to become an exporter.

There’s a reason why Putin banned western food shipments to Russia - they knew we would do to Russia what we did to the Saudis in the 70’s to break the embargo - we cut off corn and wheat shipments to SA.

He was telegraphing that a food embargo wasn’t going to do the trick this time. Figure out something else.


40 posted on 08/08/2014 9:59:49 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs ((What is the R0 of Ebola Guinea?))
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