[rdcbn]

:: we should start to seriously question eitehr the training of police ::

Currently, JohnnyLaw is trained to view anyone who is not a LEO is a “hostile” (enemy).

That is the “point of change” needed.

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When a police officer is simply driving down the street, happens upon several people walking down the middle of a street, politely tells them to please move to the sidewalk, they refuse and keep walking down the middle of the street, the officer stops to try to get them out out of the middle of the street and at least one of the people immediately attacks the police officer for no reason as he gets out of the car and drives the officer back into his car fighting for his gun - how else should police officers treat the public except as ,” trained to view anyone who is not a LEO is a “hostile” (enemy)”

This situation (if true) seems to be an example that proves the case anyone could be considered hostile

Just sayin’ .

[ZULU]

THAT is THEIR story. LIke the handcuffed black guy in the back of a police cruiser who allegedly pulled out a gun and shot himself.

Sorry. I don’t trust these guys anymore without witnesses or videotapes.
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[7thson]

I was not there nor were you. How do we know that is how it happened? But for the sake of argument, let us say it did happen that way. How did the officer phrase it? Did he say "get out of the road" with a hostile tone? Did he say, "hey, it might be a good move to get on the sidewalk before you get hit by a car?" Did Brown say "get bent" or did he just ignore the "order?" We do not know. What would be the proper way to handle it? We don't know? You can also make the arguement that once the officer gave the "order" and the 18 year old - not a kid - disobeyed, did that show of disrespect offend the officers authority? Did the officer then feel he had to prove his authority or he and the entire force loses face? Hell, it seems the people in that neighborhood disrespects the police anyway. Maybe he could have pulled up to the 18 year old and calmly explain things to him like "hey, if you get hit, it's no skin off my nose. Just don't expect us to come running in a hurry. We gave you fair warning. And if something happens to you in the neighborhood, don't bother calling us since you disrespect us so much. Why should we bother with you since you don't want us to bother you. So you see how it works - you help us, we help you. You blow us off, we blow you off. Get it?" Do you think that might have worked?

Which goes back to what I asked earlier - do we have to obey everything coming out of police officers mouth?

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Cartman: “Do not question my authoritay!”