[xzins]

On Fox News, legal analyst Annemarie McAvoy made the same point: “The victim knew, if it was in fact him, that he’d just committed a robbery, may have assumed that he was going to be arrested and essentially tried to resist before he gets arrested.”

[xzins]

Policeman didn’t know, but deceased did know that he’d just shoplifted some cigars and pushed a clerk.

[Gen.Blather]

The truth is a defense. You can’t assassinate the character of someone who has none.

[Resolute Conservative]

The title says it all. Police are always at a disadvantage when contacting people on the street. You don’t know who they are or what they’ve done, but they do. I know that goes against what the JBT group thinks.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

“The officer didn’t know about the robbery in the store when he stopped Michael Brown, but Michael Brown knew about the robbery, and Michael Brown … thought that he was being apprehended for robbery, and therefore when the officer tried to put him in the car for not being cooperative or whatever his reasoning was, Brown immediately started to struggle because he thought he was going down on a robbery in the second-degree,” Callan said.

Proverbs 28:1 - The wicked flee when no one is pursuing, But the righteous are bold as a lion.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Proverbs 28:18 - He who walks blamelessly will be delivered,
But he who is crooked will fall all at once.

[Qiviut]

the officer tried to put him in the car for not being cooperative or whatever his reasoning was

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Just sayin’ ..... Brown knew he’d done something wrong & everyone can argue how serious that was ... some say shoplifting, some say robbery, doesn’t matter, really. He knew he’d done something wrong and a policeman was talking to him & generally in those circumstances, behavior isn’t that of a totally innocent person. Perhaps he broke into a sweat, wouldn’t look at the officer, got belligerent, who knows. He might have had the Swisher Sweets on him at that point, too - evidence of his robbery. I would bet money this policeman’s “spidey sense” (6 year veteran) was going off that something wasn’t right with this kid as evidenced by the way he was acting .... it would not be unheard of for him to put MB in his car until he figured out what was going on. The robbery & the shooting ARE totally related, IMO ... even if the cop didn’t know ... MB did. I think the cop was in more danger at that point than MB because he didn’t know what he was dealing with .... certainly wasn’t an “innocent child” who had nothing to hide & no motive to ‘break bad’ if he thought evidence might be found and/or he might be arrested.

[smokingfrog]

What time did the shooting take place and what time did the call go out about the convenience store robbery?

[Williams]

I watched long video of the guy who was with Brown.

Aside from the fact that for 20 minutes, Brown is called “n*gger” and the officer is called “M***** F*****”

This guy claimed that Brown was on his knees and the officer shot him point blank as Brown begged for mercy, then shot Brown 4 more times on the ground, and then reloaded and shot brown 4 more times. Also denied Brown robbed the store.

Unless the autopsy shows 9 shots as described, I don’t think the guy has much credibility.

[Cubs Fan]

So how many people are the “black community” and the media going to turn into false martyrs?

Tawana Brawley, Rodney King, OJ Simpson, the duke lacrosse stripper, Trayvon Martin, and now Brown

How many more of these charades is it going to take before people finally wake up and say FU media FU race industry—Its not the cops, its black culture and they way it fosters, enocourages and enables violent criminal behavior that is the real source of all this.

[mass55th]

That’s the problem with these punks. They aren’t bright enough to appear unassuming. Instead, they bring attention to themselves by walking down the middle of the street, knowing full well there may be cops in the area because of the robbery they just pulled. I worked in uniform behind the walls and fences of maximum and medium security prisons in NY State for 25 years. We had a saying amongst the officers, “They’re not in here because they’re smart.”

[Mariner]

My limited knowledge of case law, very limited, leads me to believe that if the cop cannot demonstrate Imminent Threat, he's a candidate for Murder II.

Anyone know otherwise?

[stlnative]

floating on FACEBOOk... (this is a copy I did not write this but early reports match up to this)

"Darren is a good man and he shot and killed Michael in self defense. After he told the young adults to get out of the street, they refused and there was a heated verbal exchange, Darren rolled ahead and pulled over and watched the two. He noticed they fit the description of two people involved in a strong armed robbery nearby that had just been called in and also looked like they may have had the stolen merchandise on them. He reversed his vehicle back to where they where to question them. When he tried to get out of his car, Michael slammed the car door back closed with his body. Upon attempting to exit his vehicle, Darren was bum rushed by Michael Brown, shoved back into the front seat of his car, punched in his face a few times and then had to fight Michael over posession of his gun. The gun was literally turned against Darren's body for a moment. During the struggle, his gun went off and then the 280 pound, 6'3" "child" took off with his friend. When the officer got out of his car and drew his gun and yelled freeze you're under arrest, Michael turned, taunting him, yelling from about 35 feet away, "what, you gonna shoot me?" and then abruptly charged the officer again. The officer unloaded on the huge YOUNG adult as he continued storming towards him until finally, he was able to stop him by shooting him in the head right when he was almost to him and his weapon.

Imagine the adrenaline pumping after almost being shot in his police car and then this same large guy is sprinting at you. He thought that Michael must have been on something the way he just kept coming despite being shot many times. Hopefully, toxicology will confirm this suspicion. These are the facts-but if nothing else I beg that you at least consider these as the other side of the story. I've heard several witnesses that must keep quiet in case they are needed in court have confirmed this story and had the SAME version of events. All other "witnesses" stories have all been inconsistent with one another, some claiming he was down on his knees, others that he was running away.

The truth above is the only consistent story there has been because of course, there can be only one version of the truth. I believe in my heart for it to be factually true because I know someone very well who was there. Please spread the truth. I am begging you to at least put this out as a possibility since we have ONLY heard the other's side. It explains all of the questions and it's what I was told on Sunday morning, before everyone was silenced. Please pray for Darren who was only doing his job and trying to stay alive. Or at least, please consider this as a possibility...even just a theory. I'm telling you, eventually it will all come out. This is the truth. Spread it!"

I didn't write that but I will push it forward, it's the only aspect that's made ANY sense and been consistent with every report.

[SilvieWaldorfMD]

So this shows that Wilson knew nothing about the robbery and Brown did because he committed the robbery. Was Brown agitated? Do you know how many cops have died when they pull over a car at a traffic stop and the persons inside the car have just committed a crime but the cop doesn’t know that they committed a crime? The assailants/robbers think that the cop making a traffic stop knows.

[matt04]

Daryl Parks, an attorney for the Brown family, confirmed that the security footage “appears to look like” the teenager, but accused the police chief of “strategically” releasing the video to “assassinate the character of Michael Brown.”Hahahaha. So the evidence show these thugs weren't as sweet and innocent as the rioters would have us believe and all of a sudden it is character assassination.

[drpix]

Not only did the thug know he had just committed the robbery and behaved with the police accordingly - but the store video shows he was of a belligerent and assault mood at the very time the police stopped him!

[jazusamo]

Yep, Brown knew it and it’s an excellent point, I’d guess Brown felt he was big enough challenge the officer.

If in fact he tried to take the officers gun from him it was a fatal mistake and no ones fault but Browns.

[ArmstedFragg]

That’s a bit of a change in Dorian’s story...

[DiogenesLamp]

I may have to dispute your thesis. A Commenter over at Ace of Spades said this:

445 I'm looking at the police report on a robbery of cigars and an assault in a store on W. Florissant Ave, Ferguson, last Sa.. The clerk id'd the suspect who also assaulted him as a black male wearing a white t-shirt, khaki longer shorts, yellow socks and a red cardinal's baseball cap. He also said a second suspect was with the first, but didn't give any particulars. He said they left the store and headed up W. Florissant north toward Quiktrip. The robbery took place between 11:52:58 and 11:54:00, per the video, and a description of the suspect was put out over the radio around 11:57.

This shows that when the patrol cop accosted Brown and Johnson on a street not too far from W. Ferguson a mere three minutes later, he wasn't harassing them for "walking while black" --- Brown fit the description of the aggressive thief, down to his socks. That still doesn't say anything about what happened after that, but at least initially, the cop was just doing his job.

Posted by: Trotsky w/an ice-pick in his head at August 15, 2014 03:27 PM (fPTO4)

Also, other reports said the officer was on a "sick" call, but broke off handling that call just prior to accosting Michael Brown. If he didn't hear the robbery call, why did he break off of the "sick" call?

[Sherman Logan]

I really seriously doubt any cop would try to put anybody, particularly an anybody weighing 300 pounds, into the cruiser without first cuffing him.

[Kid Shelleen]

I wonder what the toxicology reports will how ? Cigars are not always smoked for tobacco.