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To: mgist
This takes Soros Fund Management's short position on the index from 3pc of his portfolio to 17pc. Mr Soros's net position on the index remains long.

It's like he has a $5 bet that the market will go up, versus a $1 bet it will go down.

BFD.

6 posted on 08/17/2014 3:35:56 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

But a put option on an index is a very different animal from a long position in actual stocks. The put provides tremendous leverage, but for a limited time before it expires worthless.

Soros is probably holding a mixture of durations and strike prices. Some of them may be ‘in the money’. But if the market keeps going up, or stays even, he will lose more on the puts than he gains on the stock.


8 posted on 08/17/2014 3:44:56 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I told you to stop using logic on these threads.

It hurts other posters' self-esteem.

15 posted on 08/17/2014 4:52:14 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Toddsterpatriot; SAJ
...he has a $5 bet that the market will go up, versus a $1 bet it will go down...

--and it's all right there in the 13-F filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission; nobody cares because the preferred belief is that the evil capitalist is out to get you.  That $1 bet he made on a falling S&P, it's no different from the bet we make with the life insurance salesman where we're so glad when he wins and we "lose".

22 posted on 08/18/2014 7:26:01 AM PDT by expat_panama
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