[gusty]

I suggest you read history. All armed groups are loyal to those who pay them. This has been true since the days of Sulla. Our Founding Fathers understood this. That is why they were deathly afraid of standing armies.

[Biggirl]

Good grief, what do you want anarchy!?

[C. Edmund Wright]

I suggest you read history. All armed groups are loyal to those who pay them.

There you go, using logic and human nature and history to make a point. Don't you understand, self righteousness and false straw arguments are the currency of your debate pal…….your reasoned argument will go nowhere…..with him or her.