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Sherman in Gaza [VDH]
National Review ^ | 8/20/2014 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 08/20/2014 5:31:44 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross

His march through Georgia has been gravely misunderstood ― as has Israel’s strategy in Gaza.

William Tecumseh Sherman 150 years ago took Atlanta before heading out on his infamous March to the Sea to make Georgia “howl.” He remains one of the most controversial and misunderstood figures in American military history. Sherman was an attritionist, not an annihilationist — a strategist who believed in attacking the sources that fuel and field an army rather than butting heads against the army itself. To review his career is to shed light on why the Israeli Defense Forces were both effective in Gaza and hated even more for being so effective.

Much of the South has hated William Tecumseh Sherman for over a century and a half, but not because his huge army killed thousands of young Confederate soldiers (it did not). Grant did that well enough in the horrific summer of 1864 outside Richmond. Rather, Sherman humiliated the plantationist class by staging three long marches during the last twelve months of the Civil War — from Tennessee to Atlanta, from Atlanta to Savannah, and from Savannah up through the Carolinas. In each of these brilliantly conducted invasions, Sherman, with a few notable exceptions, sought to avoid direct fighting with Confederate forces, either outflanking opposing armies that popped up in his way, or entrenching and letting aggressors wear themselves out against his fortified lines. He did enormous material damage, as he boasted that his enemies could do nothing to impede his progress — humiliation being central to his mission.

Instead of fighting pitched battles, Sherman was interested in three larger strategic agendas. War in his mind was not a struggle between militaries so much as between the willpower of entire peoples ....

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KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; israel; sherman; vdh; victordavishanson
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1 posted on 08/20/2014 5:31:44 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
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To: Deb; Sir Napsalot; Kaslin; neverdem; EXCH54FE; 2ndDivisionVet; Rummyfan; smoothsailing; Hojczyk; ...
VDH ping ... Viva Israel!


2 posted on 08/20/2014 5:33:37 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

There are a lot of Southerners on Free Republic. You’re not likelly to win much support for a thread celebrating Sherman’s genius.


3 posted on 08/20/2014 5:40:09 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Servant of the Cross

Great general.

“War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.”

4 posted on 08/20/2014 5:42:10 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

A some point, after all of the history, intellectualizing and analysis, you simply fight for your own tribe. I am a Southerner. I do not care much for Sherman.


5 posted on 08/20/2014 5:45:50 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: Blennos

At some point...


6 posted on 08/20/2014 5:47:13 AM PDT by Blennos
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To: IronJack

not just southerners...ex-yankees, thinkers, etc!!!

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Dick.G: AMERICAN!
aka: Gunny G
*****


7 posted on 08/20/2014 5:48:15 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: IronJack

I am a native Southerner (waiting for the accusations to fly).

I admire Sherman only in that he determined what needed to be done and then did it—with brutal efficiency—likely ending the war sooner than otherwise.

Patton was cut from the same cloth.


8 posted on 08/20/2014 5:50:07 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Sherman was obsessed with separating bellicose enemy rhetoric from facts on the ground. He believed that unless humiliation was a part of defeat, a tribal society of ranked hierarchies would always concoct myths to explain away failure.

Certainly applicable today too.

9 posted on 08/20/2014 5:54:00 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

“War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Oh, for leadership like that today. Please, God, bring us leaders like Sherman. In Jesus’ Name. Amen.


10 posted on 08/20/2014 5:55:40 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: IronJack
True dat .... Lincoln was the worst tyrant in U.S. history and his war was illegal, immoral, unconstitutional. / s

This VDH article is about successful tactics in a war and that the IDF is waging its war against Hamas with true genius.

And yes, it is still possible that this turns into a re-litigating the civil war thread ....

11 posted on 08/20/2014 5:55:58 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: IronJack

They say Adolph Hitler was very intelligent too. Attributing the IDF tactics to W.T. Sherman is a joke. Sherman’s ethos was the opposite of Israel’s.


12 posted on 08/20/2014 5:59:49 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Servant of the Cross

Ancient Chinese military strategist Sun Tsu said that the real target of the general is not the enemy’s army. The real target is to destroy the enemy’s willingness to fight you.


13 posted on 08/20/2014 6:00:45 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Arm_Bears
God bless 'The South'. Without the conservative base in the South, there would be no more America. The godless socialist democrats would have the entire country looking like Atlanta after Sherman went through it ... Exhibit A: Detroit.


14 posted on 08/20/2014 6:04:52 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

amen that


15 posted on 08/20/2014 6:06:29 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Tzfat

“They” who? Give Nazi weapons of the time to someone even of average intelligence and WWII becomes orders of magnitude tougher for the Allies to win. Certainly no unconditional surrender in ‘45. Hitler was a military moron, thank God.


16 posted on 08/20/2014 6:11:19 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Servant of the Cross; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; ...
What continues to amaze me even as I enter my late 60s is the lack of knowledge supposed 'in the know' media & government folks have on the Civil War. They also have the same the same IQ for the rest of history, to press the point--

Since we have unionized the American school system, there are no more 'teachers,' only 'educators.' The average student nowadays know less and less history with each passing year and what they are actually taught in the classroom from Kindergarten to Grad School is not actual history but rather different shades of leftest opinion squeezed more and more by the changing political correctness of the unions' patron, the Democrat Party.

As we see happening in Ferguson, it ain't what actually happened that matters... it is how much loot there is and how it can fill the coffers of the race baiting Democrat Party.

17 posted on 08/20/2014 6:16:04 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Sherman isn’t hated in the South for “humiliating” the plantation class. He’s hated for deeds such as burning down Columbia, SC.


18 posted on 08/20/2014 6:26:34 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
You must have missed the point, because you are arguing over something I did not say. The Germans were able to bring the world to an unprecedented world wide war. That indicates something intelligent. Hitler's "success" is no recipe for any sane person to emulate because the motivation was evil. Likewise, Sherman's "success" had an ethics-challenged motivation that the Israeli IDF, the most ethical military force in history, does not share.

I can promise you that Sherman is studying at the IDF war college, but not in order to emulate him.
19 posted on 08/20/2014 6:36:38 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
You must have missed the point, because you are arguing over something I did not say. The Germans were able to bring the world to an unprecedented world wide war. That indicates something intelligent. Hitler's "success" is no recipe for any sane person to emulate because the motivation was evil. Likewise, Sherman's "success" had an ethics-challenged motivation that the Israeli IDF, the most ethical military force in history, does not share.

I can promise you that Sherman is studying at the IDF war college, but not in order to emulate him.
20 posted on 08/20/2014 6:36:39 AM PDT by Tzfat
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