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To: Cold Heat
Only smooth muscle and tissues are affected...skin, gums, throat, intestines...other organs..

Eyes? Victims bleed from their eyes.

So it’s not respiratory...

You say right after reminding us the Reston strain IS respiratory.

Depends on what the meaning of is, is, eh?

I'm sure the White House friend of ISIS will define IS in the most prudent and narrowest sense. Just like you, I'd bet my very life and the lives of everyone I hold dear, and the continued existence of the entire country on that.

19 posted on 08/23/2014 8:48:09 AM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: null and void
You say right after reminding us the Reston strain IS respiratory.

The evidence that Ebola Reston was respiratory was that monkeys in another room at the holding facility where the original infected monkeys were held also got sick. However, the facility was quite dirty, and there are other possibilities for the spread of disease--for example, through fomites carried between rooms.

As far as I recall, the only bodily secretions where virus has been found for prolonged periods after illness are breast milk and seminal fluid, the latter being tested infectious 82 days after initial symptoms in one patient. I've been reading a ton of papers on this, so if references are requested, it will take me a few days to provide this specific one.

25 posted on 08/23/2014 9:17:57 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: null and void

Well.....lol...I am not going to get into a link posting situation here..

I will say that the confusion over ebola and how it spreads is largely due to the medical establishments comparisons of symptoms to that of the Flu, but they then fail to explain Flu symptoms.

Ebola is a blood born pathogen. Once it is in great enough numbers in the blood and has overwhelmed the immune system it breaks out of small capillaries. in the intestines, eyes, skin, and spreads it’s self through bleeding. But it does not do that in the lungs....Period....

Flu is also a blood born pathogen. But it does not cause bleeding. However the initial syptoms of the Flu and ebola are the same with fever, chills, general sick feeling.

Upper respiratory and respiratory diseases are generally bacterial....IE: the common cold, and sometimes it can accompany the Flu because the immune system is busy, and it spreads the Flu then through coughs, sneezes, etc.

In a ebola patient, the accompanying bacterial diseases do not have enough time to incubate because the ebola virus will kill the patient before that can happen.

Ebola does not affect the upper respiratory, (trachea and sinuses) and is not spread the way flu is spread. It stays in the blood until the final stages of the disease where the capillary walls break down and bleeding occurs. Initially this may show up as a rash or skin blood blister.

Vey Soon after this time the patient is flat on their back, unable to move.

We are very lucky in a way, that Ebola acts this way. It makes the disease easier to control, in a good medical environment.

The disease has another aspect to it, very technical so I am not going to get into the reasons why, but the disease is very stable and it is difficult for it to mutate or combine RNA/DNA with other viruses.

I know exactly where you hope to go with your argument, where you want to claim that Ebola is transmitted like the Flu is...

But it does not do that. It never has..

As I said, there is only the one known strain that affects animals only (Reston) that is spread through the respiratory system, and it, try as it might, does not infect humans.

That is the situation with Ebola. It just is what it is.

So to sum up...Ebola is only transmittable in it’s last stages where bleeding begins to occur, and not through respiratory bleeding.

Very shortly after the bleeding starts, the patient is no longer able to travel and this aspect has helped to keep it from becoming a pandemic.

There has never been a Ebola strain in humans that transmits like the Flu through the respiratory system. And there is not likely to be one, but the chances like anything else are not zero.

It spreads, as they have said, by direct contact with fluids that shed live virus in the last stages of the disease.


29 posted on 08/23/2014 9:38:30 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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