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To: thackney
How viable is that extraction scheme at say, less than $50 a barrel? Even then, if the oil industry can't get the price below $2.00 a gallon for either gasoline, fuel oil or diesel, or LPG, then I'll throw my money into the consumer side, and promote efficiency gains and the use of natural gas.

I work for the railroad servicing and repairing locomotives. At the rail yard that I work at, we burn through 3 million gallons of distillate, a month.
The railroad is very seriously looking into running LNG in their locomotives, with its low cost, and with the cryogenic tankcars and onboard fuel tanks that I have seen lately, along with the greatly reduced engine maintenance from burning natural gas, not to mention meeting tier 4 emissions without any post-exhaust treatment, I think that the days of the diesel locomotive are numbered.

4 posted on 08/27/2014 11:13:46 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat
How viable is that extraction scheme at say, less than $50 a barrel?

Extremely less. Production rates would be falling not climbing.

Even then, if the oil industry can't get the price below $2.00 a gallon for either gasoline, fuel oil or diesel, or LPG, then I'll throw my money into the consumer side, and promote efficiency gains and the use of natural gas.

Nothing wrong with that. The fuel is cheaper. So far there are still nearly offsetting cost in engine, fuel system and lack of distribution, but it is getting better.

The railroad is very seriously looking into running LNG in their locomotives, with its low cost, and with the cryogenic tankcars and onboard fuel tanks that I have seen lately, along with the greatly reduced engine maintenance from burning natural gas, not to mention meeting tier 4 emissions without any post-exhaust treatment, I think that the days of the diesel locomotive are numbered.

I tend to agree. LNG requires more volume for the same energy as diesel, but it is less mass. The very limited locations required for fueling seem to make this a good fit.

5 posted on 08/27/2014 11:27:30 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: factoryrat

LNG per gallon contains only 58% of the joules (BTUs) of a gallon of diesel. And it warms up and loses density just sitting in an insulated tank.

No free lunches. Oil is superior because it is superior. Not because of conspiracy or economics.


6 posted on 08/27/2014 11:29:22 AM PDT by Owen
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