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Let's be clear about this: Russia is invading Ukraine right now
Vox ^ | 8/27/14 | Max Fisher

Posted on 08/27/2014 12:06:17 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

There are two things happening between Ukraine and Russia right now. First, Russian and Ukrainian leaders are meeting in Belarus to negotiate a peace deal in the Ukrainian conflict that Russia insists it has nothing to do with. Second, Russian military forces are crossing the border into Ukraine in what is clearly a hostile invasion and act of war. That includes Russian artillery, Russian tanks, Russian-trained irregular forces, and even uniformed Russian soldiers who have admitted on camera that they are Russian military ordered to invade by their commanders.

But the first piece of that is obfuscating the second. Getting Russia to agree to a peace deal on Ukraine requires lots of careful diplomacy, and that means that no one wants to formally acknowledge Russia's invasion of Ukraine, even though Russia is definitely invading Ukraine right now. That's how you have even the more hawkish figures in the Obama administration making statements like this:

The new columns of Russian tanks and armor crossing into Ukraine indicates a Russian-directed counteroffensive may be underway. #escalation — Geoffrey Pyatt (@GeoffPyatt) August 26, 2014

Russia’s military incursions into Ukraine- artillery, air def systems, dozens of tanks & military personnel–represent significant escalation — Susan Rice (@AmbassadorRice) August 26, 2014

(Excerpt) Read more at vox.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhorussia; putin; ukraine
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The whole world really is falling apart.....
1 posted on 08/27/2014 12:06:17 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Yeah, but 0bama shot a 93 yesterday, best score of the month. All that practice on Martha’s Vinyard is paying off.


2 posted on 08/27/2014 12:07:48 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Nero Obama doesn’t play the fiddle. He golfs while the world burns.


3 posted on 08/27/2014 12:08:20 PM PDT by BipolarBob (You can't fix stupid but you can vote them out.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

1. According to the press - this invasion had been going on for months.

2. Not much of an invasion


4 posted on 08/27/2014 12:08:32 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana

I had to turn the channel yesterday due to Shep Smith’s psychotic screeching over the issue. That boy needs to take a Midol.


5 posted on 08/27/2014 12:12:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

They’re all screaching about ISIS and Syria etc. Geraldo, MEgyn Kelly, The Five Ladies etc etc.

Fact is, there are no good options. Once we pulled out, we lost our leverage.

BEst now is to do nothing. NADA and let it play out. Let all these Muslums fight it out. Let the Ukrainians wear down the Russians, which they will do.

Give our friends all the weapons we can, but stay the heck out of there.


6 posted on 08/27/2014 12:17:11 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: TangledUpInBlue

But it’s Pupin. Nothing could go wrong. /s


7 posted on 08/27/2014 12:21:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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8 posted on 08/27/2014 12:22:36 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: TangledUpInBlue

What difference does it make?


9 posted on 08/27/2014 12:23:04 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: TangledUpInBlue
The new columns of Russian tanks and armor crossing into Ukraine indicates a Russian-directed counteroffensive may be underway. #escalation — Geoffrey Pyatt (@GeoffPyatt) August 26, 2014

Counter offensive?? Ukraine never attacked Russia

10 posted on 08/27/2014 12:25:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

When does China take over the far east?

Before or after Iran destroys Saudi Arabia and the UAE?

Will Pakistan nuke Israel?

When will the United States be run over by third world people unwilling to leave?

Eastern Europe’s a goner - but what about Europe? Will the USSR expand beyond their old borders what with the United States is impotent? Will France be part of the USSR? Germany?

Thanks Democrats. Thanks for everything.


11 posted on 08/27/2014 12:29:29 PM PDT by GOPJ (Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil. —Thomas Mann)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

A full ban on tweeting would be my first order as President. It has the impression of juvenile and not serious. Silly.


12 posted on 08/27/2014 12:30:14 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: TangledUpInBlue

August 1914 all over again.


13 posted on 08/27/2014 12:32:24 PM PDT by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: Noamie
A full ban on tweeting would be my first order as President. It has the impression of juvenile and not serious. Silly.

He seems to prefer twiddly winks

14 posted on 08/27/2014 12:32:25 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
lennutrajektoor ‏@lennutrajektoor 3h CONFIRMED UPDATE - #Russian SOF K-9 units where today #Ukraine SOF eliminated 6 & 2 dogs were fr #Russian army unit 35690.
15 posted on 08/27/2014 12:34:49 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

16 posted on 08/27/2014 12:38:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: dfwgator

Ukraine Crisis Map.... Reports: Novoazovsk under Russian control


17 posted on 08/27/2014 12:40:23 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: DoughtyOne
from Twitter: Swedish Foreign Minister Carl BildtVerified account ‏@carlbildt We are now evidently seeing fighting between regular Russian and regular Ukrainian forces in Eastern Ukraine. There is a word for this.
18 posted on 08/27/2014 12:43:44 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

There is a word for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-2pNCZiNk


19 posted on 08/27/2014 12:46:21 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Belarus sending more of those BUK systems to Russia

Looks like Russia is about to go all-in on this invasion.

20 posted on 08/27/2014 12:49:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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