Posted on 08/29/2014 7:20:20 PM PDT by lodi90
Yes, but even if Russia falls over due to sanctions, it will still take longer to happen than the Euros freezing this winter. Converting plants takes time and involves opportunity costs, so does sourcing alternate gas inputs.
Of course, if we had an Administration that wasn’t idiots, we’d have an LNG terminal by now and be able to export gas to support Europe. But, of course, we don’t.
The Japanese Navy was consuming about 1200 tons of fuel oil per day without even engaging in fleet manuevers. When Roosenfeld cut off the US oil exports the Nips were down to a few months reserves and they couldn’t have waited much longer than early December to strike.
What a bunch of Russkie weaklings.
What kind of pathetic loser country imports most of their manufactured products instead of producing their own?
~Chicoms don’t own the banking system. That’s NYC and London. Putin is SOL if this hammer drops. The Russian economy will collapse.~
And what do you think will come out of it? Some growing pro-Western sentiments among Russian public? I think even hard-core formerly pro-Western Russian liberals would march all the way to London after Putin after this.
Nice revisionist memory...
How exactly are “we” forcing Putin to secretly invade Ukraine?
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Russians are at a crossroad. They have to decide if they wish to join the civilized world or continue supporting a mass murdering kleptocrat that will lead them into the dust bin of history. This woman from Krasnodon decided. She just got 15 days in jail for holding up that sign. That bit of fascism is done in your name. Think about that while you goosestep along behind your beloved Fuehrer Putain.
Sounds like a recipe for total global war.
Agreed. Russian money flowing through Hong Kong to fuel Asian, Middle East, Indian and African deals makes China rise in status as a financial hub.
China is already taking a lead developing infrastructure like roads, railroads and buildings in Africa as payment to those states for buying up farm land and mineral rights. And China, unlike the West, doesn’t make demands for human rights, non-GMO crops, giving gays special rights and so forth.
This move leads to Russia and China aligning financially as well as politically in a way they didn’t under Communism.
Good luck with that. Europe depends on Russian natural gas.
Now, now. Don't upset FR's armchair generals who want a good war to watch on TV.
Plus, as history has shown us, war with Russia is easy-peasy. A walk in the park. We'll rid the world of Russian tyranny by Christmas, Russian Christmas at the latest.
After all, according to them, we beat the Germans, we can beat the Russians. Our warriors, hardened by LGBT sensitivity training and "time out" cards in bootcamp will certainly crush those undisciplined Russian soldiers who do things like drink, brawl and draw pictures of guns in school.
What does the sign say?
Imho, it is not wise to poke a bear with a stick. A .44 mag between the eyes is a better choice.
5.56mm
We forced Ukraine to choose between the west and Russia, splitting the population and their affiliation ethnically. We have a pussy for a leader who emboldens all Americas enemies. We are pushing Putin into a corner economically to the point that he must go to war to save face.
We will then claim it was one sided.
Please. You clearly don’t understand the first thing about SWIFT if you think Russia’s going to build an ‘alternative’.
Didn’t say I did...
But there have been numerous articles over the last year about both Russia and China exploring alternative systems.
Wait, I thought your strength was analysis? It would take an intelligent layman about 10 minutes research to realize this story is horse$hit.
What happened? Your analysis get waylaid by the need to big up Pootie?
Links, please. Russia forced that choice, then used the turmoil and invaded to get a nice port on the Black Sea. Rewriting history is so... Soviet... of you.
I’m afraid you will have to go back more than a year to see the choice between east and west that was pressured. I’m on vacation and not able to research for you.
There are many recorded historical summaries you can Google easily. Here is just one version:
“When France capitulated in June 1940, Japan moved into northern French Indochina. And though the United States had no interest there, we imposed an embargo on steel and scrap metal. After Hitler invaded Russia in June 1941, Japan moved into southern Indochina. FDR ordered all Japanese assets frozen.
But FDR did not want to cut off oil. As he told his Cabinet on July 18, an embargo meant war, for that would force oil-starved Japan to seize the oil fields of the Dutch East Indies. But a State Department lawyer named Dean Acheson drew up the sanctions in such a way as to block any Japanese purchases of U.S. oil. By the time FDR found out, in September, he could not back down.
Tokyo was now split between a War Party and a Peace Party, with the latter in power. Prime Minister Konoye called in Ambassador Joseph Grew and secretly offered to meet FDR in Juneau or anywhere in the Pacific. According to Grew, Konoye was willing to give up Indochina and China, except a buffer region in the north to protect her from Stalin, in return for the U.S. brokering a peace with China and opening up the oil pipeline. Konoye told Grew that Emperor Hirohito knew of his initiative and was ready to give the order for Japan’s retreat.
Fearful of a “second Munich,” America spurned the offer. Konoye fell from power and was replaced by Hideki Tojo. Still, war was not inevitable. U.S. diplomats prepared to offer Japan a “modus vivendi.” If Japan withdrew from southern Indochina, the United States would partially lift the oil embargo. But Chiang Kai-shek became “hysterical,” and his American adviser, one Owen Lattimore, intervened to abort the proposal.
Facing a choice between death of the empire or fighting for its life, Japan decided to seize the oil fields of the Indies. And the only force capable of interfering was the U.S. fleet that FDR had conveniently moved from San Diego out to Honolulu.
And so Japan attacked. And so she was crushed and forced out of Vietnam, out of China, out of Manchuria. And so they fell to Stalin, Mao and Ho Chi Minh. And so it was that American boys, not Japanese boys, would die fighting Koreans, Chinese and Vietnamese to try to block the aggressions of a barbaric Asian communism.
Now Japan is disarmed and China is an Asian giant whose military boasts of pushing the Americans back across the Pacific. Had FDR met Prince Konoye, there might have been no Pearl Harbor, no Pacific war, no Hiroshima, no Nagasaki, no Korea, no Vietnam. How many of our fathers and uncles, brothers and friends, might still be alive?
“For of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these: ‘It might have been.’” A few thoughts as the War Party pounds the drum for an all-out American war on Iraq and radical Islam.”
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