Drew68 wrote:
Yep! Russian soldiers haven't even gone through LGBT sensitivity training. How are they supposed to fight?
You are comparing our military to a country where "boyish recruits are subject to homosexual rape by officers as a form of hazing, and the regime protects this" (Robert Zubrin Qtd. in Back from the Dead: The Return of the Evil Empire (Kindle Locations 254-255)). Moscow itself "is a major center of international organized crime, prostitution and drug trafficking. As reported by CNN, child porn is legal in Russia, which has served as a haven for pedophiles. Moscow is not some shining City of God, as Buchanan implies. It is the metropolis of deception. Moscow supports Communist revolutionaries in Africa and Latin America to this very day" (J.R Nyquist Qtd. in the same, Kindle Locations 247-250).
Here are a couple of stories of what it's like to be in the Russian military and subject to rapist homo officers and forced prostitution:
"“When I was standing on duty, two bullies came up to me and shoved me into the stockroom, a soldier serving at one of Moscow’s military units recollects. "They raped me there in turn. It was very painful and revolting. It didn’t take them much time to finish, but the next day I started noticing other soldiers giving me strange looks. I instantly realized that those bastards let everyone know what they had done to me. An officer came up to me one day and said to me point-blank: “Tomorrow you will to serve two clients.” I knew that if I said “no” then I would spend my last days spitting blood. But still, I told him “no.” When the officer heard that, he pulled out pictures of me being raped in the stockroom. “If you don’t serve the clients, you mother will see these pictures,” said he. I was forced into prostitution,” the soldier said.
Another serviceman, named only as Ilya, became a male prostitute during his second month in the army. The young man received a letter from his girlfriend. “The sergeant told me that day that I would no longer need girls. He and three other men forced me to go behind the barracks to the abandoned construction site. They made me kneel their, tied me up to a lamppost and hit me several times in the groin. The pain was so strong that I lost the will to fight them back. They made me open my mouth and raped me. I don’t remember how long it continued. When I came to my senses I didn’t want to live. I was seriously thinking about committing suicide. I was shocked that the rapists were visiting me regularly afterwards bringing fruit and vodka for me. When it ended they made me a prostitute,” Ilya said."
http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/15-02-2007/87441-army_prostitute-0/
This is Russia, the Christian Empire, the paragon of virtue that can lecture the gay liberal West!
BobL writes:
I also find it VERY INTERESTING that NO ONE screaming for war with Russia has suggested beefing up our military spending - not McCain, not the people on THIS SITE, NO ONE.
I have, though I am not sure if I have done it recently. I have even advocated that we utilize the same type of war preparations as the Russians, building bunkers to survive a nuclear war, and training the population on how to survive a conflict between nuclear powers. If the Russkies are preparing for it, we should too.
But the Russian military isn't as dangerous as you make it out to be. We never hear of American soldiers dying 300 at a time in conflicts against fat, retired soldiers or volunteer young people who have a few weeks of training, as they are in Ukraine. In their invasion of Georgia, they were disorganized and ill-equipped. They like to boast that the Georgians were trained by the U.S., but the Georgians did not have fighting spirit, which is what counts for more than training, as the Ukrainians show us. Nor do we hear about American Officers biting off the ears of soldiers who refuse to carry out criminal orders, as occurred in Chechnya with the Russians. The Russians are often disorganized and drunk, and the only time their operations go smoothly is when there is only rape and looting involved, which is their traditional pastimes. What we hear about in Ukraine, Georgia or Chechnya, the mass murder, desecration of bodies, abuse of their own soldiers, burying them in ditches and the like, is not new. In WWII they raped and murdered people just for fun, and when too drunk, they used bottles or other objects, piercing women through their genitals and out their stomachs and then setting them on fire while still (mostly) alive. This is their traditional method of warfare, and we will kill them the way we usually kill Communists, a thousand at a time.
The only thing the Russians have going for them are their nuclear weapons, which they have been building and cheating on for years (while our stockpile deteriorates and where our politicians, like Obama, are working to disarm) and their willingness to throw Russian troops into the meat grinder in large numbers.
That is why Russian/Chinese strategy relies so heavily on deception and subversion of our culture, leadership and military. The only fair fight for a Russkie is the traditional one, where the man is tied up and they are beating on the woman:
Palmer writes:
Unlike the handful of perennial warmongers here and the people they have duped into believing that losing Ukraine is the end of the world
It is not warmongering to say that Russia and its allies China, Iran, North Korea, etc., are the evil empire and a threat to the United States. Nor is it wrong to say that letting Russia take over Ukraine, or France, or Finland, is very bad and needs to be opposed. Well, maybe not so much for France.
Liberaltarians are dangerous to this country since they have the same reaction as surrender monkey liberals who think that nobody means us harm. They do not know human nature or history.
reefdiver writes:
Putin also has no appetite for a war with the West.
The invasion of Ukraine is, in fact, an attack on the West, as was Georgia. Russia will continue to gobble up countries just like the Soviet Union did during the Cold War. We are in a new Cold War, and it is the United States that is targeted as Russia's primary enemy.
There are multiple long-term trends working within this crisis and as culture and tradition frequently trump logic and constraint, the position of Kiev and Ukraine in RUSSIAN history cannot be ignored.
Kiev has always had a very different culture than the Russians, who, actually, rather stole the name "Russia" from the Ukrainians. There was a Kievan Kingdom when Moscow was still wilderness. They are related to each other the same way those subhumans from Lovecraft's "The Lurking Fear" were distantly related to the protagonist. The Muscovites have the oriental despotism that they inherited through the Mongols, and they've never gotten rid of it.