Posted on 08/31/2014 7:15:23 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Relations between Russia and Ukraine - as the two countries, two states, two nations, two ethnic groups, the two cultural systems will never be the same again- the brotherly-intimate. (However, there are the two brothers of the state - Cain and Abel.)
But it's not only about the states, but also about the people. In Ukraine, the popular idea will fix - say, dear Russian! We love you and will love you forever! Now is to blame the Kremlin, Putin, the Russian television and forced on you by the Imperial virus. And Crimea you have taken against their will - you just stupidly deceived with your propaganda.
Now to capture the Donbass - is simply a misunderstanding. But you - are our brothers. However, everything is much sadder: the Kremlin, Putin and even Russian TV - just let the Russian people see what they are willing and want to them to see. At the very least, the same 85%, which is guided by the Kremlin, Putin and TV.
The only possibility to restore relations between Russia and Ukraine, between Russians and Ukrainians - is the immediate overthrow of Putin and all that neo-feudal political regime/system - by the forces of the Russian society. Also, to stop military aggression. And after, then repentance. But this will never happen, it is impossible by definition. And therefore also former relations will never be. And if they really were in the past - that is the big question.
Sometimes it seems that the Ukrainians came up with this 'good brotherly Slavic people' in the north. Like, they were blinded from what it was, and then accepted this was true, and fell in love [with story.] While the Russians' attitude to Ukrainians has always been indulgent [starshebratovskim] often dismissive - example: they say, you have good songs and excellent bacon too.
Nevertheless, the Russian society still expects heavy "Ukrainian" syndrome - like — like what was in the United States over the war in Vietnam or in the USSR about the Afghan war. But it is - in the future, after the defeat, following the collapse of the country. After broken tanks, armored personnel carriers and white Kamaz to haul 360-year-old crystal bridgeof Ukrainian-Russian friendship - already burned and burns. And it seems that no one that does not regret ...
If you must post piles of broken English Ukrainian propaganda, you might consider leaving off the PutinPorn images hosted within Ukraine since they can correlate the IP addresses that they gather with the posting times at FR and thus know the IPs for each screen name.
I'm not saying they are actually doing that or that it matters. But I would rather not have that possibility along with your boring crap if I choose to reply to one of your threads with trackable images.
If you wish to put images in your threads, please host them yourself on photobucket or other similar services or choose images already hosted on such services.
Nah, I will just continue to accurately post articles as found in news.
Not to be blunt, but I have had a terrible morning. So, if you don’t like, don’t read. Or, “if you can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!”
Ukranian Propoganda? Do you assume that Russia can forcefully dominate the Ukraine without a backlash?
Are you that ignorant or arrogant?
I suspect that what we as a world are witnessing in the Ukraine is similar to the hardening of attitude which occurred during the American Revolution. A formerly detested ally that has grown too independent for the mother country and therefore must be brought to heel.
Naturally this contest will harden feelings between pro and anti russian citizens in the Ukraine until there will be an internal cleansing of competing viewpoints.
After Russia’s brazen actions, the Ukraine can never go back to it’s former russian relationship.
This action by Russia will no doubt change the internal Ukrainian Psyche forever.
Before or after they become part of the new Soviet Union?
Most of the time I will just look at the links for the pictures. When I find them pointing to sites run out of Ukraine I will point those out so other commentors will learn to avoid them and not be tracked, or you stop posting trackable images. But otherwise, you are correct, I won't read your junk.
I suspect it is more like Europe before WWI where the players use any excuse or poor reasoning to attack. That obviously applies most to Russia who attacked under the pretense of protecting Russian nationals. But it also applies to Ukraine looking for a sympathetic alliance to attack the Russian invaders. Fortunately they won't get that, at least for now. World Wars are made from stupidity and fighting on the side of Ukraine would be extremely stupid.
I can’t believe you really stated you just look at the pictures?!?!
My grandfather would say, “Believe half you hear, and nothing your see.” Test information against the personal knowledge and proven, reliable sources. It is only possible to discern Truth for yourself.
But if starts with a website I never heard of I first do whois to see who owns it (although it might be private). Then I might do a traceroute to see who hosts it. In this case the image is hosted in Ukraine.
That means whenever someone posts to the thread, their post time in the thread can be matched with a fetch on the image in the logs on the server in Ukraine. Those logs contain the IP address for the poster. So whoever posts in your thread can be known by IP along with their screen name.
Might not be nefarious, but I don't trust anyone.
Well, you can trust that I don’t have time or inclination to attach false photos to news articles.
Probably be simpler for you to just to click on hyperlink of news article! I attach because often people (like me) don’t have time to go to original URL unless a video is present.
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