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Be a little careful what we wish for. The Kurds are the good guys when up against Saddam or IS, for sure, but that’s because they have their own agenda, too. If they get their own state, things may be different.


5 posted on 08/31/2014 10:27:09 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: Eccl 10:2
Be a little careful what we wish for. The Kurds are the good guys when up against Saddam or IS, for sure, but that’s because they have their own agenda, too. If they get their own state, things may be different.

Hallelujah! It is always refreshing to read some sense. While most people only look at the now, some - like you - look at the now AND the future. The Kurds are a strong people, and would definitely help against IS. However, even as we help them it is important to ensure that we do not end up with yet another situation where short term gains turn rancid down the line.

Training and supporting the Mujahadeen made sense against the Soviets, but turned rancid after. Getting rid of Saddam made perfect sense, but no thought was given as to who would fill the vacuum left and the situation turned rancid. Supporting a popular revolt against Hosni Mubarrak seemed like a good thing to do, but when Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood took over it turned rancid. Getting rid of Qaddafi got a lot of support, but with the crazy chap gone the vacuum created turned rancid. Then it was time for Assad, and both sides of the aisle supported getting rid of him and gave training and coin to the 'freedom fighters' that sought to get rid of him. When certain elements became so radical that Al Qaeda itself excommunicated them (!!!!!), and those elements ended up controlling a third of Syria and a quarter of Iraq, it is easy to see that the situation turned rancid.

There's a strong track record of people getting excited of 'solutions' that appear to be quick fixes, with those quick fixes quickly leading to an even worse situation down the road. It should be obvious that there is no way a solution in the ME will be a quick fix. Impossible, and I almost never use that word.

However, I know for a fact that the temptation of a 'quick' solution will be too much to be avoided, and the Kurds will get their state. However, those in Turkey will not, and that country will get into a civil war. Or something rurally ironic will occur.

With that said, it is refreshing to see someone take a pause and ask what the situation might be down the line.

8 posted on 08/31/2014 10:44:10 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Eccl 10:2
Be a little careful what we wish for. The Kurds are the good guys when up against Saddam or IS, for sure, but that’s because they have their own agenda, too. If they get their own state, things may be different.

THAT is for sure.

18 posted on 08/31/2014 1:03:04 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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