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1 posted on 09/01/2014 4:47:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
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The rats have created their trap so as not to look like the racists they really are they put the national black caucus in charge to act as the candy man and funnel tax payer money in the form of feel good programs to keep thier peeps down on the farm and dependent. The peeps on the other hand are allowed to shed thier responsibilty to themselves thier offspring thier committment to thier women embrace the thug lifestyle, gangs, drugs, domestic violence and alcoholism, loot, burn down thier communities and blame the white folks for thier ills and inequallity. The rats have created a socialist state withing the united states with the help of the media, the racebaiters and now Washignton dc


2 posted on 09/01/2014 5:00:11 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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The GopE solution? Move 10,000 illegal Mexicans into the area as a border “compromise”?


3 posted on 09/01/2014 5:02:06 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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It sounds like a very complicated program to administer. with the government getting more and more into your business. I don’t believe his plan is workable. It should be simpler not more complicated.

Who determines what is a volunteer program? Will programs like Acorn be considered a volunteer program. If you spend time taking care of a sick relative will that count?


4 posted on 09/01/2014 5:05:52 AM PDT by FR_addict
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If Paul Ryan and the author of this article really believe that government "anti-poverty" programs were ever intended to reduce poverty, then they're both delusional.

The whole purpose of the $15 trillion invested in these programs is to create a permanent class of dependent people while employing massive numbers of bureaucrats and government employees. On that basis, it's been a huge success, not an abject failure.

5 posted on 09/01/2014 5:10:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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Give and it shall be given unto you. Continually demand that more be given you and you will never have enough. NEVER.
Produce, create, contribute. Cut the whining.
Self-control, hard work and an appreciative, grateful positive outlook is the key to success,
A negative, ungrateful, resentful, hateful attitude guarantees a life of misery.


6 posted on 09/01/2014 5:11:25 AM PDT by all the best
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His solution is more government intrusion and more government programs right down to monthly prizes. Think of how many more government employees we can hire to administer this program.


7 posted on 09/01/2014 5:20:15 AM PDT by FR_addict
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Paul Ryan is a GOPe / U.S. Chamber of Commerce amnesty pimp. A fake TEA Party guy if ever there was one.


8 posted on 09/01/2014 5:24:09 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often for the same reason)
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I wish Paul Ryan and Romney would just go away. They had their chance. We need someone who believes in limited government.


9 posted on 09/01/2014 5:25:03 AM PDT by FR_addict
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It sounds like a possibility, although one of the problems with so many of these people is that years of having the government do everything for them has created such passivity and ignorance that it’s going to be hard for them to take even that much responsibility for themselves.

I had a family member who worked for a Habitat chapter in the South. Theoretically, the people who received the houses (the “homeowners”) were supposed to be employed, but in practice, they had ended up accepting people with 100% “government income,” as it’s called. And while the program was open to anyone, virtually all of the families (loosely speaking - usually an older lady with her grandchildren or even great-grandchildren) were black.

The problem is that they really had none of the skills that would enable them to run their own lives, much less own a home, because they were so used to having government come along and pick up after them. There were exceptions, but many of them (and their strapping but lazy grandchildren) managed to avoid the sweat equity, and then when they got the house, they could never manage to realize that they actually had to make the mortgage payments.

And they couldn’t do even the lightest maintenance chores on their houses: if a doorknob fell off, they didn’t know how to go and get a screwdriver and reattach it, and in fact, they felt that it wasn’t their responsibility to even do such menial tasks. They were encouraged to take the basic home repairs classes that the local Home Depot offered (for free) but they never did. And it’s not like they were too busy working to fit it into their schedules...

In fact, even routine cleaning was beyond them. Within a couple of years, the originally nice shiny new Habitat homes looked like every other decaying slum house around them.

I honestly don’t know what can be done about the bottom of the bottom. Clearly, what we’re doing now isn’t working.

I’m not sure this would work either. Ryan’s plan offers them a lot of carrots to change their behavior, and I do think that’s necessary; but Habitat certainly offered them a lot of attractive benefits, and they didn’t change because they knew that in the end, they really wouldn’t have to. The government would rescue them once again, and the grandchildren could go on dealing drugs, stealing granny’s check and committing robberies, using the proceeds to buy themselves new rims or maybe street guns to blow away their rivals.

In other words, in addition to the carrots, there probably needs to be a stick in this plan, where failure to meet standards would result in a reduction of benefits. That was actually what worked to get a lot of people off their backsides and off of welfare several years ago.

It’s very hard to deal with, because these people (not only blacks, btw; we have some rural poor whites around me who are no better) now have accumulated generations of helplessness and dysfunction and don’t even know anybody who works.


10 posted on 09/01/2014 5:25:06 AM PDT by livius
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bttt


15 posted on 09/01/2014 5:42:10 AM PDT by petercooper ("I was for letting people keep their health insurance, before I wasn't". --- Barack Obama)
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In Chicago hey have a unique antipoverty program. Give the young men guns and then allow them to kill each other.

Reduction of the surplus poor saves the federal money for the administrators


16 posted on 09/01/2014 5:45:12 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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Because these programs are means-tested – they’re tied to how much money you earn – they perversely discourage work and advancement because earning more means losing a huge array of benefits.

A monthly housing grant of $500 is provided while household income is under $50,000.

I don't see a lot of difference Mr. Ryan.

17 posted on 09/01/2014 5:57:44 AM PDT by steelwheels
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“Paul Ryan’s important contribution here is to show that not only are these vast government anti-poverty programs not working, but also they themselves contribute to the persistence of the problem...”

What is she talking about?

Paul Ryan is an idiot.

Anyone who would try to breech contract with veterans’ widows doesn’t know anything about the basics of economics


19 posted on 09/01/2014 6:15:33 AM PDT by stanne
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Government and politicians can enact all the programs they can think of, but until individuals change their attitudes and actions, nothing will change. I’ve seen people who live off the government and other people, value nothing because it was given to them, they didn’t have to work for it, there’s more where that came from. Democrats want to keep the poor, angry and poor and blame anything and anyone but the very people who don’t even know how to live a fruitful life because of generational dependence on government.

Most of the people who I have seen change on were people who became true Christians. They made things right with God, they changed their actions, attitudes and worked to better themselves. Most importantly they had hope they could live a new life with Gods help. Of course the left will pretend to believe in God but demand God stay out of it because of supposed separation of church and state. It’s a racket for the democrats; they need these people dependent on them so they will vote for the very people who keep them in property. There will be a special place in hell for those who use people and keep them away from God.


20 posted on 09/01/2014 6:26:14 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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Nope. It has to be much simpler. First, EBT cards will not have money automatically deposited each month. Recipients will have to physically and personally report to the welfare office, show ID and pass a drug test before getting funds. Only drug free U.S. citizens get money. Next, an announcement should be made that benefits for having children will stop in 10 months. Everyone that is already born or born in the next 10 months will remain covered (with the stipulation of drug tests once again) but after that nothing. Last, offer a reward for turning in people who misuse the system for profit. 10% of what the government had been paying to the lawbreaker will go to the whistleblower. Fixed.


21 posted on 09/01/2014 6:27:02 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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I don’t care what RINOs have to say.


24 posted on 09/01/2014 6:59:53 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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Economist Milton Friedman said “The economic race should not be arranged so everyone arrives at the finish line at the same time but so that everyone starts at the starting line at the same time.”

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Wrong. I started the race somewhat ahead of others because I had good parents and accepted their teachings. It’s not government’s business to deprive me of this advantage, and any attempt to do this throughout our society will turn-out wrong.


30 posted on 09/01/2014 8:41:20 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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