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To: Hojczyk
We must be honest with them if we are not willing to fight a new Cold War with Russia over Ukrainians’ independence. But if we force Ukraine to surrender

We cannot "force" Ukraine to surrender based on OUR assessment of OUR national interest.

Ukraine must surrender, or not, based on THEIR assessment of THEIR national interest.

It's my opinion that these two things - OUR interest and THEIR interest - have minimal, near zero, overlap.

Anyone who thinks that we, or especially Germany, is going to get into a conflict with Russia over the Ukraine region is, in my opinion, delusional. Russia's interest in Ukraine is great. Ours is near-zero. Germany's is non-zero, but Germany has more to gain from an alliance with Russia than they do from pissing them off.

If the new leaders of Ukraine were smart - something for which there is no evidence - they would have reached an accommodation with Russia months ago instead of fantasizing about "the West", which no longer exists in any real (military) sense.

But, they've made their bed, and now they are having trouble falling asleep in it.

It's too bad.

91 posted on 09/01/2014 11:16:54 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble
If the new leaders of Ukraine were smart - something for which there is no evidence - they would have reached an accommodation with Russia months ago instead of fantasizing about "the West", which no longer exists in any real (military) sense. But, they've made their bed, and now they are having trouble falling asleep in it. It's too bad.

With your usage of the idiom "they've made their bed", are you lecturing Ukraine on their decision not to appease the expansionist thug Putin?

93 posted on 09/01/2014 11:23:45 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Jim Noble; Hojczyk

Merkel is said to be born in “East-Germany” and speaks fluently Russian, and I believe Putin speaks German. Still NWO is the key!!!
!!!


106 posted on 09/01/2014 12:22:19 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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