Posted on 09/01/2014 12:57:58 PM PDT by babylon_times
by the time the EU or Obama gets rounds to discussing it,with it and getting it out of committee,Putin will probably be in there about 6 months......
Marching armies trump red tape bureaucracy. Putin knows this.
Had enough of a brain to know that Kiev was an integral part of the Russian state, and would not, in their wildest dreams, have risked war over the question.
He probably could. We took Baghdad in about that time. But can he hold it?
Its the gas, Putin would not hesitate turn off the gas as europe moves into autumn/winter....this is a main reason why countries need to get away from relying on these tinpot idiots for energy and heat.
Its the gas, Putin would not hesitate turn off the gas as europe moves into autumn/winter....this is a main reason why countries need to get away from relying on these tinpot idiots for energy and heat.
History has shown that Russia can suffer the destruction of major cities and the deaths of millions of their civilians.
What about us?
Didn’t say that. Said that they have been invaded by Europe every several decades and then the Nazis did it to a degree the west doesn’t comprehend. They will never allow a repeat of the nazi years and will nuke anyone who tries. And we are expanding an aggressive military alliance up to their border.
This Ukraine crap is a rumbling that they are getting unhappy about an obvious menace they sense.
But nevermind, where were we? Back to the fantasy war of M-1 tanks sweeping through Kursk. Backed by stalwart European men. Or is this another American war on behalf of Europe? (Which they manage to avoid)
+1
If you think Putin is insane enough to seek the permanent destruction of Russia, then you guys are really supporting a man that even you think is insane, personally I don’t see a man who has stolen up to 70 billion dollars, as someone who won’t straighten up when he realizes that the world isn’t going to let him keep invading nations.
Russia is no match for NATO and the free world, and is only pushing to get away with whatever they can get easily.
History has shown that the Russians are a brutal and mass murdering people that kill their fellow citizens by the tens of millions and who never have a choice about whatever their current strong man forces them to endure.
No I do not, but the EU is a dead end for Germany, and no nation has more upside in this situation than Germany does.
Germany has nothing at risk in Ukraine, and has everything to gain, beginning with Königsberg.
I would not be at all surprised if Jan Sobieski's successors in glory won't be offered Lwow, Grodno, Brest and maybe even Wilno in exchange for the rest of East Prussia.
Big, big forces are in play here - Germany can either defend the right of Greeks to retire at age 49 and pay Portuguese pensions forever, or play ball with Putin.
It's a tough call for them.
Ukraine for the last 1000 years or so has been a round-robin between being part of Russia, part of some other empire, and its own nation, or even its own empire. Whether a Kissinger-led Nixon, or a Shultz/Rumsfeld-led Reagan, would have chosen to make Kiev an issue, is one question, but my point was that, if they had chosen to make it an issue, their private threat/promise to Khrushchev, or Brezhnev, or Andropov, or Gorbachev would have been believed, but no threat Obama says is believed anymore.
One of earliest Russia Tsar kill his two brothers
If you want see good history on Russia
Google Russia Land of the tsars it was on History channel when they show still history programming
you keep pushing this in every thread, anyone who disagrees with you is labelled a Putin supporter......its not.
We just realise the reality on the ground is what it is.
No-one is supporting Putin but he is currently got them all by the short and curlies and got them playing his tune.
How do you know how fanatical Putin is, do you read his mind....Never back the russian bear into a corner...Hitler learned that the hard way in the siege of Stalingrad.
Russia, spanning what, 13 time zones? And always the victim when they take more.
You know what, you’re right. We should probably just roll on in. There will be minimal resistance. They would never dare use nukes in a case of an all out invasion.
And honestly, if we kick in the door, the whole rotten house will probably simply collapse anyway. I’m with ya pal.
...and according to people ON THIS SITE, if we give the Ukrainians some left-over firecrackers, they’ll march right up to the gates of Moscow.
LOL.
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