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Rand Paul: Let’s smash ISIS [What will Libertarians say now?]
Hotair ^ | 09/02/2014 | AllahPundit

Posted on 09/02/2014 3:12:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

A few days old but more timely than ever.

Speaking to a ballroom later, some of the loudest applause for Paul came when he quipped: “If the president has no strategy, maybe it’s time for a new president.”

In an emailed comment, however, Paul elaborated by saying: “If I were President, I would call a joint session of Congress. I would lay out the reasoning of why ISIS is a threat to our national security and seek congressional authorization to destroy ISIS militarily.”

John McCormack reminds us that Paul’s previous comment on ISIS was a lot more equivocal than that. (His op-ed last week on the folly of Obama’s interventionist ambitions in Syria offered no strategy on ISIS at all.) You can read the above as credulously or skeptically as you like. Maybe it’s proof that Rand really is more hawkish than his old man and that, after some initial ambivalence, he’s been convinced by the intelligence that crushing ISIS is the only way to defuse the threat. Or maybe he’s looked at the polls lately and noticed that the mainstream conservatives he’s hoping to woo in 2016 are swinging back towards interventionism. Maybe it’s a bit of both. There’s no reason to hold Rand to a different standard than his competitors. Show of hands: Who thinks Marco Rubio’s recent tough talk on comprehensive immigration reform is being driven purely by non-electoral considerations?

I’m curious about the libertarian reaction to all this, though.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: isis; randpaul
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1 posted on 09/02/2014 3:12:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Say? They’ll say little to nothing. They know he’s not serious.


2 posted on 09/02/2014 3:13:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Paulistas meet the existential threat.


3 posted on 09/02/2014 3:14:05 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t trust Paul for a second, this is just push back for his recent statements that showed him to be the nutcase he is.


4 posted on 09/02/2014 3:14:11 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Mastador1

I wish you GOP establishment plants would stop posting on this forum.


5 posted on 09/02/2014 3:19:02 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Paul isn't a libertarian. He is a Republican.
6 posted on 09/02/2014 3:22:29 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Libertarian” is not really monolithic on national security, though.

Take Glenn Reynolds, for example. I read him every day, and he’s a national security-type libertarian, because he’s a smart realist.

I wonder what percentage of libertarians are Paulistas. He’s sort of a niche cult thing.

Still, if he breathes national security in their direction, they’ll latch onto it, which would be a good thing, because it seems to me to be more of a Rothbard-cult-like following than anything. They’ll suck down anything that comes from him.


7 posted on 09/02/2014 3:24:24 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: Theoria

He is a fruitcake.


8 posted on 09/02/2014 3:25:38 PM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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To: tennmountainman

He might be, but he is a Republican fruitcake.


9 posted on 09/02/2014 3:26:57 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: SeekAndFind
He will change his position on this soon. Then he will change it again.
10 posted on 09/02/2014 3:28:55 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
Pretty darn funny, just like Paul! But in case you are serious:

1. I am an American 2. I am a Conservative

I am not a republican, gop, democrat or libertarian and when my clown alarm goes off I pay attention to it. Rand Paul, Chris Christie, Jeb Bush, Mike Huckabee, et al set it off there is a reason.

11 posted on 09/02/2014 3:29:15 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
"I wish you GOP establishment plants would stop posting on this forum."

So if one does not support a curly haired surrender monkey, that makes them "GOP establishment plants"?

A really great Freeper often says here....

FURP!!!!

12 posted on 09/02/2014 3:31:15 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: Mastador1

You are a GOP establishment plant. Pretty obvious from your post, especially this last one.


13 posted on 09/02/2014 3:33:57 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: lormand
So if one does not support a curly haired surrender monkey, that makes them "GOP establishment plants"?

No, it is just obvious he is one.

14 posted on 09/02/2014 3:35:35 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: lormand

He blasted Pat Buchanan when he said close the border and set lower immigration quotas to a limit that allows people to assimilate. He ran from Dan Quayle when he gave his Murphy Brown speech rather than take a stand with him. And now true to form he is attacking Paul because he is not your go-along-get a long GOP establishment candidate.

If his loyalties were as you he says he would not be attacking one of our own as he has always done in the past. The pattern is clear. The GOP establishment is here and on this forum as plants to knock down any candidate that threatens to break the GOP establishment hold on the party.

I watched it for too many years not to recognize it. He is a plant.


15 posted on 09/02/2014 3:44:59 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where did people get the misconception that libertarian = pacifist?


16 posted on 09/02/2014 3:46:11 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Theoria

Paul is a libertarian/republican, a libertarian like his dad, using whatever party he can to operate from.


17 posted on 09/02/2014 3:56:39 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: DManA

No one said anything about “pacifist”, but part of libertarianism is being weak on national defense and in foreign policy.


18 posted on 09/02/2014 3:58:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Paul will say one thing and then do another.

Isis just shows us like Bin laden that we can’t just retreat from the world and have anarchy here.


19 posted on 09/02/2014 3:58:29 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ansel12

Nonsense.


20 posted on 09/02/2014 3:58:37 PM PDT by DManA
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