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Could this be the end of the Grand Canyon?
BBC News ^ | 4th September 2014 | Anthony Zurcher

Posted on 09/04/2014 10:06:13 AM PDT by the scotsman

'The Los Angeles Times's Julie Cart reported on Sunday of plans to build "restaurants, hotels and shops" on Navajo Indian land adjacent to the eastern portion of the Grand Canyon.

The 420-acre Grand Canyon Escalade proposal would also feature an eight-person gondola that would take tourists on a 10-minute ride to the canyon floor, she writes, "where they would stroll along an elevated riverside walkway to a restaurant at the confluence of the Colorado and Little Colorado rivers".

Continue reading the main story “ Start Quote The average person can't ride a mule to the bottom of the canyon” End Quote R Lamar Whitmer

Managing Partner, Confluence Partners LLC

The canyon, called one of the seven natural wonders of the world, attracts more than 5 million visitors annually. Confluence Partners, the company behind the proposal, estimates the development could draw as many as 3 million visitors.

Prospects for this new construction have officials from the US Park Service worried that the project - located two miles from the park - may have an adverse impact on the area's scenic vistas.'

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: grandcanyon
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To: refermech

So would many disabled, especially veterans.


41 posted on 09/04/2014 10:50:28 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: the scotsman
So, what do you think about it?

What's the point of posting something without comment?

42 posted on 09/04/2014 10:52:31 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: DonaldC
After what the park service did to monuments and parks during that budget thing, I have no respect for anything they have to say.

Agree...

43 posted on 09/04/2014 10:54:27 AM PDT by GOPJ ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: the scotsman

Do it.

Why shouldn’t the Indians be allowed to prosper and flourish?

Further, I can make the hike to the bottom and back up and would very much enjoy the hike.

however, many people can’t and others have their own tribe of gaggles to drag around.

This would afford them the opportunity to have an amazing experience, taking in the magnificence and beauty of being immersed in an incredibly awesome place.


44 posted on 09/04/2014 10:55:04 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: wally_bert

It was almost right out of national lampoon vacation. They drove there, got out of the car, looked for a few minutes and drove back home.

My husband and I went to the Grand Canyon while returning from TX to CA.
We spent the night, looked the next morning then left.
I could not take watching s bunch of reckless people get too close to edges, and actually jump from the trails to outcroppings! (hoodoos)


45 posted on 09/04/2014 10:56:28 AM PDT by Isabel2010
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To: dainbramaged

I don’t either. I have a “good roads association” road map book for Arizona from 1910. In it they explain a road will be built to the river soon. I guess it proved a little more difficult than first imagined.

A tram to the bottom would be very neat.


46 posted on 09/04/2014 10:56:38 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: Grams A

” We also did the donkey trip to the bottom of the canyon”


I wouldn’t do that for a billion dollars (the fear of heights thing.)

When I was in Molokai friends rode on mules down to the Kalaupapa peninsula but I was perfectly happy staying on the overlook.

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47 posted on 09/04/2014 10:56:45 AM PDT by Mears
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To: BigBobber
I'm thankful American Indians can stand up to liberal elite idiots who would ‘preserve parks for the snail darters’ if they could get away with it.
48 posted on 09/04/2014 10:57:35 AM PDT by GOPJ ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Wallace T.
In any case, the national parks should be turned over to the states or, better yet, privatized. If the Ted Turners, the Robert Redfords, or the Bill Gateses of the world dislike the idea, let them buy the lands with their own money and run them as they wish.

You might want to read up a little on the history of the NP. Large portions of many national parks were contributed by greedy capitalists (mainly the Rockefellers) to the government for the enjoyment of ALL of the people.

National Parks are an idea that was hatched in the capitalist West and funded by capitalists.

Every time I visit a NP in the west I'm thankful that this land was aquired from Mexico and the most beautiful parts preserved for our enjoyment and the enjoyment of future citizens. If the Mexicans or Indians still controlled these areas they would look like Las Vegas.

49 posted on 09/04/2014 11:00:45 AM PDT by BigBobber (`)
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To: eyedigress

Here’s the road (from Peach Springs)to the Colorado.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQdmFvBOeGw
From that darn Wiki, “...Diamond Creek Road is graded in the river canyon adjacent to, and in some cases, within the streambed of Diamond Creek. Diamond Creek Road provides the only vehicular access to the Colorado River between Lees Ferry, 225 miles upriver and Pierce Ferry, 52 miles downriver.[1] This access makes Diamond Creek a popular location for whitewater rafting trips to take out from trips through the Grand Canyon. Rafting trips also launch from the same location and proceed downriver to Lake Mead. The Hualapai tribal government charges a fee for all vehicles and people traversing the road...”


50 posted on 09/04/2014 11:03:41 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: Zeppo

No thanks, the news is biased, but the rest of the BBC is great.


51 posted on 09/04/2014 11:04:06 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: hosepipe

Not just the US Park Service. Your description fits the US federal government as a whole. Mob rule by mobsters with Dons, Capos and Goons. I respect the US government the same way and for the same reason I respect the Mafia. The rescet does not flow from any sense that the government is “legitimate.” Nothing but a bunch of thugs.


52 posted on 09/04/2014 11:04:36 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: the scotsman

The Havisupaiute built a cantilevered glass overlook just down stream from the park on reservation land. So, that is the precedent for the Navajo.

The attraction will provide grist for the Japaneese and European tourist busses mill


53 posted on 09/04/2014 11:10:57 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: the scotsman

"Don't you want to see the Grand Canyon, Clark?"

"Ok, let's go."

54 posted on 09/04/2014 11:12:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GOPJ
I'm thankful American Indians can stand up to liberal elite idiots who would ‘preserve parks for the snail darters’ if they could get away with it.

This is how it works: National Parks are where we have preserved land for snail darters and other wild creatures. Not-in-National-Parks is where we have economic development.

I realize the proposed development is not in the park, but it is close enough to have an impact.

55 posted on 09/04/2014 11:13:15 AM PDT by BigBobber (`)
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To: the scotsman

“Could this be the end of the Grand Canyon?”

Before I (barely) glanced at the article I thought the BBC was lamenting the fact that the canyon had nearly filled up from rocks being tossed in by tourists.


56 posted on 09/04/2014 11:15:30 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: bray
Sounds like a great place to have a buffalo steak.

The Lodge at Bryce Canyon serves excellent bison dishes. I'm sure the GC has fine dining as well.

57 posted on 09/04/2014 11:15:34 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: maine yankee
And the native american hosts charge an arm and a leg for that experience.

They sure do...I think it costs $80+ a person for the Overlook platform, and I don't believe you can take your own pictures.

58 posted on 09/04/2014 11:17:41 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: ctdonath2
Sometimes Europeans tend to not grasp the immense scale of the USA.

No kidding. Where I lived in Germany, I could travel through five countries before lunch: Germany, Luxembourg, France, Belgium, and Holland.

59 posted on 09/04/2014 11:19:21 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: machogirl

That is the road mentioned. Peach Springs to Mesquite Spring past Point Sublime and on to the river. 21.5mi (maybe to be built in 1913)

I can’t believe I didn’t travel it. Thanks


60 posted on 09/04/2014 11:25:45 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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