Posted on 09/04/2014 7:05:07 PM PDT by markomalley
A Dutch lawmaker once put on trial for his views on Islam called Thursday for Dutch Muslims supportive of groups like the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS/ISIL) to leave the country and never be allowed to return.
“Anyone who expresses support for terror as a means to overthrow our constitutional democracy, as far as I’m concerned, should leave the country at once,” Party for Freedom (PVV) leader Geert Wilders told parliament in The Hague. “If you are waving an ISIS flag, you are waving an exit ticket. Leave!”
On Monday British Prime Minister David Cameron proposed measures to prevent British Muslims from leaving the country to join ISIS or other terrorist groups fighting in Syria and Iraq.
But Wilders said aspiring jihadists should not be stopped from leaving.
“Let them leave, with as many friends and family members as possible. I will go to Schiphol [airport in Amsterdam] to wave them goodbye, if that helps. But don’t let them ever come back – that is the condition. Good riddance.”
“Deprive all jihadists of their passports – even if they only have a Dutch passport,” he said. “Let them take an ISIS passport.”
Thousands of European passport-holders are believed to be among an estimated 12,000 foreigners from dozens of countries, including the U.S., fighting with ISIS or other jihadist groups in Syria. The “foreign fighter” question has caused such concern that President Obama is hosting a U.N. Security Council session on the issue later this month.
In a parliamentary speech marking a decade since he left the ruling party to form the PVV, Wilders said he has been harshly criticized over those ten years for sounding the alarm about Islam, but suggested that the current rise of ISIS and its brutal behavior vindicated those warnings.
He said he had been vilified, and prosecuted, for a 2008 documentary, entitled Fitna (Arabic for “strife”), which interspersed passages from the Qur’an with footage of terror attacks, along with clips of Muslim clerics endorsing violence.
“While not so many years ago, everyone refused to broadcast my film, Fitna, we can today watch Fitna 2, 3, 4 and 5 daily on our television screens,” he said. “It is not a clash of civilizations that is going on, but a clash between barbarism and civilization.”
Wilders accused the Dutch government of playing down the threat, even as public rallies in the Netherlands over the summer featured ISIS banners and “death to the Jews” chants.
While the Dutch cabinet argued that jihadists were a small and insignificant group, the reality was very different, he said, citing an opinion poll that found 73 percent of Dutch respondents of Moroccan and Turkish origin regarded those who go to fight in Syria as “heroes.” (The May 2013 poll referred to Muslims going to fight in the civil war, not going specifically to join jihadist groups.)
‘Handbook for terrorists’
Wilders’ core message Thursday – as it has been for years – was the one that has been most controversial: That the problem lies in the ideology of Islam itself, that Muslims committing violence in the name of their religion were simply emulating their prophet, and obeying the Qur’an.
After reading three verses from the Qur’an – including one (47:4) which jihadists point to in justifying beheading “unbelievers” – he described the Qur’an as “a handbook for terrorists” and “the hunting permit for millions of Muslims.”
“That book is the constitution of the Islamic State,” he said. “What ISIS does is what Allah commands.”
Muslims believe the Qur’an to be the infallible “final revelation” of Allah to Mohammed.
FitnaWilders’ Fitna, which linked the revered text with terrorism, caused an uproar in the Islamic world. The European Union joined Arab and Islamic multilateral organizations condemning the 16-minute documentary, and Britain denied Wilders a visa and deported him the following year. A tribunal later overturned the visa ban. Also in 2009, an appeals court in Amsterdam instructed prosecutors to indict Wilders for “inciting hatred and discrimination,” charges relating both to the film and to public comments about Islam. He was acquitted in 2011.
As much as Wilders’ views have stoked controversy, they also resonate with many Dutch voters; in the most recent general election, in 2012, the PVV won the third most votes out of 11 parties entering parliament.
About six percent of the population of the Netherlands is made up of Muslims, mostly of Moroccan and Turkish origin. Islamic radicalism has become an troubling issue for many in the traditionally liberal country, where a Muslim extremist in 2004 shot and stabbed to death a filmmaker critical of Islamism.
Wilders has faced numerous death threats over the years, and has been under police protection since 2004.
In 2010 a radical Muslim cleric in Australia urged Muslims to kill Wilders for denigrating Islam, saying they should “chop off his head.”
Whoa hoss, be careful.
Bearded barbarians have more rights than you have.
“He can’t because we have a Constitution that guarantees the right for muzzies to join ISIS and come back.”
I don’t know about that. You take an oath when you apply for your passport.
bfl
What oath?
I send up a passport picture and I get a renewal through the mail.
No questions asked.
This guy got it and understood the threat to his country and all Western civilization years ago. He took a lot of crap from liberals who think diversity means giving up your own heritage.
We need some folks to come out and tell the truth here at home.
But there is a difference. The West eventually listened to Churchill. I fear that will not be the case with Wilders.
Wow, the Dutch get it even while most of the rest of Europe are destroying themselves?
Don’t kid yourself, Isis is al qaeda, is hamas and is the muslim brotherhood. They all have the exact same goal. They are cut from the same cloth and will unite to destroy us all if we let them.
No oath, but it can be revoked.
A federal or state law enforcement agency may also request the revocation a passport for the regulatory grounds under 22 CFR 51.60-65. When the Department revokes a U.S. passport, revocation information is shared through various databases accessible by law enforcement and various border agencies around the world to prevent persons from traveling on revoked passports. A request for a passport revocation must be in writing on official letterhead (delivered or faxed to Legal Affairs at the address below) and include the subject’s name, including aliases, date and place of birth, social security number, known previous passport numbers, last known address, any other biodata including of identity documents and photographs of the subject, copies of any criminal court orders or valid arrest warrants, and appropriate contact information of the requesting law enforcement officer and his/her supervisor. The public may NOT request passport revocation.
When you sign the DS-11 form you are agreeing to the following
I have not, since acquiring United States citizenship/nationality, been naturalized as a citizen of a foreign state; taken an oath or made an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state; entered or served in the armed forces of a foreign state; accepted or performed the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or political subdivision thereof; made a formal renunciation of nationality either in the United States, or before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state; or been convicted by a court or court martial of competent jurisdiction of committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against the United States, or conspiring to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force, the government of the United States.
Do you see anything in that statement that would invalidate a US passport of an ISIS jihadist?
Don’t forget that ISIS is NOT a state.
There will be an army of ACLU and CAIR lawyers welcoming the American jihadist upon his return and the million dollar legal bill will be slapped on the American taxpayer every time these ‘jihadist’ heroes come marching in.
Bearded barbarians and other monsters are also protected by our Constitution.
You got your first ever U.S. passport as a new citizen through the mail?
Really?
Did you also become a citizen through the mail?
I believe that 99% of all naturalized muslims did so through perjury.
Once upon a time, perjury was a serious crime, punishable by revocation of citizenship fraudulently obtained, in addition to jail time and expulsion.
When did that change?
Yes, for renwal. But when you first apply, you take an oath.
>I believe that 99% of all naturalized muslims did so through perjury.<
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Of course. They have always been extended privileges — even today with Obamacare, as I understand.
We invited bearded barbarians to come live with us, now we must reap the whirlwind. Do stupid things and you will pay for it sooner or later. As a nation, we continue to do stupid things as you may notice.
Witnessed a mass naturalization program in Houston some 20 years ago where muzzies were exempted from taking the pledge. I also remember that new Americans of European descent were pissed at the muzzies.
What good is a muzzie pledge anyway when they regard us as infidels? Our kids don’t even say the Pledge in public school for fear that we may offeeeeeend certain minority groups.
You hear any of our congress critters protest?
Not after they've been ventilated and aren't breathing anymore.
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