[publius911]

And I have high confidence in which side will lose bad. Very bad. Though the other side won’t really “win” either...

You misunderstand the dilemma totally.
Winning is not the goal, surviving is.
The only way to win is not to play. It only takes one side to force the "game."

A few thousand years of moral philosophy has determined that the instigator should lose, even if no one wins.

[cuban leaf]

You misunderstand the dilemma totally.
Winning is not the goal, surviving is.
The only way to win is not to play. It only takes one side to force the “game.”

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Naw. I just didn’t explain it very well, because you and I are in agreement regarding winning. That was actually the point I was trying to make.