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Why Do Peacenik Liberals Make War on Business?
The American Thinker ^ | September 9, 2014 | Christopher Chantrill

Posted on 09/09/2014 12:29:55 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

"... we have lefty activists in full cry all across the nation demanding an increase in the minimum wage as the cure for inequality and a sluggish economy. And people believe them! Liberal journalist Norah O'Donnell asks Republican candidate Thom Tillis in North Carolina if a minimum wage of $7.65 an hour is “enough."Got any settled science on that, Norah?

And what about the children?

After two hundred years of a capitalism that has lifted the average person from an income of $3 per day to $100 per day,you would think that the educated, evolved people would have decided that the science was settled. You would think,as in the golden days of the civil rights era, that the educated ruling class, including its pretty faces on TV,would have imposed its enlightened view on the bitter clingers, the people that still insist that economic prosperity issues from the phone and the pen and the “stash” of the chief magistrate. But no.

Here we are in the sixth year of hope and change. The average person thinks that the way to educate children is to force them all to school, that the way to prepare for retirement is to force everyone to give their money to politicians,that the way to universal health care is to force everyone to get health insurance. And the average person thinks that the way to help the unskilled is to force employers to pay them more money.

I don't blame the untutored white working-class man,bombarded with cunning catchphrases, for thinking that force is the answer to economic stagnation. But there is no excuse for a tenured professor or a college graduate. Any educated person should have taken Economics 101, should have read up on economic history, should have seen through the economic rubbish of every left-wing thinker from Marx to Zinn.......

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: economics; education; freemarkets; minimumwage
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To: Irenic

Perhaps the problem isn’t business not paying people enough, but people not offering business enough value for their wages.


21 posted on 09/09/2014 4:30:55 AM PDT by chrisser (When do we get to tell the Middle East to stop clinging to their guns and religion?)
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To: chrisser

I can agree with that—work ethic is nowadays is depressing. I can say I am unskilled but my work ethic is that you work until you can’t stand.

My husband works to pay the bills but this our house and everything it entails is my job and I take pride in it.

My son is humping it on his own, I’m damn proud of him and no, I don’t believe the 15 bucks an hour is reasonable.


22 posted on 09/09/2014 4:38:03 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Irenic

Sorry about the scrambled egg English...I get passionate and go crazy pecking my keyboard.


23 posted on 09/09/2014 4:41:46 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Pontiac
Actually I think 200 years ago the wage would be something like $3 per week or maybe a month..

in 1812:

the average annual income for an English laborer or farmer in 1800 was around 15-20 pounds.

In the USA, it was $1.96 per month for civilians.

It peaked in 1814 at $2.54 per week.

It then declined to $1.43 per week in 1819.

From another source on the War of 1812:

At the start of the war privates were paid $5 a month, non-commissioned officers $7 to $9, and officers $20 to $200.

To stimulate enlistments, Congress in late 1812 raised the pay of privates and non-commissioned officers by $4. At $8 a month, privates still earned less than the $10 to $12 that unskilled laborers normally made, but as the bounty increased, army wages soared well above the civilian average.

[Quote from Donald R. Hickey, The War of 1812: A Forgotten Conflict (Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1989), pp. 76-77. Hickey's footnotes are omitted.]

Actually, to keep up with inflation, an unskilled worker should be making around $70 per hour now, which should be the minimum wage, if you're going to have one.

A skilled worker, such as a technician, finish carpenter, etc., should be making slightly over $100 per hour.

In both cases, the spouses could then stay home.

24 posted on 09/09/2014 4:49:34 AM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

socialist/fascists believe all profits should go to the state for proper redistribution. All profits except state profits are evil.


25 posted on 09/09/2014 5:08:17 AM PDT by stockpirate (This will stop when conservatives take to the streets, not before.)
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To: stockpirate

opps almost forgot, also almost all union contracts are tied to the minimum wage as a multiple thereof, so an increase in the MW increases most if not all union pay.


26 posted on 09/09/2014 5:10:06 AM PDT by stockpirate (This will stop when conservatives take to the streets, not before.)
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To: PGalt

Scratch an environmentalist and you’ll find a Totalitarian.


27 posted on 09/09/2014 5:17:17 AM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: stockpirate

Why do non-union small business pay more than union jobs?


28 posted on 09/09/2014 5:20:25 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: newfreep

Exactly.


29 posted on 09/09/2014 5:33:11 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Because obviously when we go to war it is soley to protect the interests of Grrrrreeeedy Eeeeeeevil Capitalists. War for Oil and so forth.

All based on some brief excursion into Guatemala during the Teddy Roosevelt administration to recoup some moneys owed to United Fruit.


30 posted on 09/09/2014 6:13:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Irenic
I think an extra 2 bucks and hour is reasonable.

I suspect what would happen is many businesses would just layoff people that aren't worth the 2 dollar a hour raise in pay. If your in an industry where profit margins are razor thin, you wouldn't have any other choice. Current long term employees would probably want pay raises and morale would turn bad if you didn't give it to them. Lets say you have 10 employees and have to give everyone a $2 a hour raise. That is over $40K a year at least and likely closer to $50K with additional SS taxes, etc.

31 posted on 09/09/2014 12:33:36 PM PDT by EVO X
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To: Irenic

If you’d EVER been an Employer, you’d quickly know you don’t need Government mandating how much to pay people working for you.
Prick yourself. Back to reality luv!
Don’t go “stuck on stupid”. Bad place to end up.


32 posted on 09/09/2014 4:25:01 PM PDT by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: Irenic

“Why do non-union small business pay more than union jobs?”

No they don’t, most if not all union contracts do not state the worker gets say $30.00 an hour, it will state the the union worker is paid a multiple of the minimum wage say 5 times minimum wage so at $7.50 per hour for minimum wage a union worker would be paid 5 times that amount per hour. so a $1.00 increase in the minimum wage also gives union workers a $5.00 an hour raise.


33 posted on 09/10/2014 10:28:59 AM PDT by stockpirate (This will stop when conservatives take to the streets, not before.)
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