Posted on 09/09/2014 7:17:36 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn
“However, I dont see where the Dims lose politically by having the issue debated. Low/no information votersdespite overwhelming facts to the contrarythink fat cats overwhelmingly back Republicans. So this is a perfect issue for the Dims to seize on to divert attention from immigration, ObummerCare, etc.”
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The Dims are pretty upset. That idiot Sanders is running around claiming that the Republicans are being obstructionist by letting the vote go forward!
They didn’t want to have a debate on this. They wanted it to fail cloture, then they could point to the Republicans and call them obstructionists. Then move on to other stuff (like equal pay and college loans) and do the same thing. None of these are going to pass the House, so there’s no reason to do any of this other than the obstructionist tag.
None of these votes were meant to pass from Reid’s point of view. They just want the political point of calling R’s obstructionists. In fact, he may not even bring up the other things now, as he knows the R’s will vote for cloture.
It was a smart move on the Senate Republicans part, if you just look at it strategically.
Your reading comprehension needs work. This is a Constitutional amendment, which means it can't pass with a simple majority. It can't even pass with the 60 votes usually needed for cloture. It needs 67 votes to pass the Senate.
While I don't often agree with what the GOP Senate leaders do, I agree with their tactic here. One, it forces the Dems to actually publicly argue why they want to restrict free speech and gives the GOP the chance to publicly argue in favor of the 1st Amendment. Two, it ties up the Senate and keeps the Dems from pushing their bill on the minimum wage and such. By the time they get finish debating this bill and it gets voted down, they will barely have enough time to vote for the CR before it is time to adjourn.
Only Senator Palpatine can save us now.
How about just repealing the 17th? Imagine what the Senate would look like today without it. Damn sure wouldn't be in Dem control.
“Your reading comprehension needs work.”
Thanks for the compliment.
I acknowledged the correct vote count needed in post 5.
As for the brilliance of the tactic by Alexander, Graham, McConnell, McCain et al., all I can point to is that Lee and Cruz voted the other way. I agree with Lee and Cruz on this.
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