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To: wagglebee

What is it that makes you crave suffering in others? I’m pro life, and against abortion on all cases. I don’t want the state to have the power to end lives because they’re inconvenient. But I also know that people die. Every one of us. It’s merely a question of when and where. I’ve seen post after post of yours for years now, where you seem to have some bizarre fetish not for prolonging life but instead dragging out the process of death— as if you must somehow extract every possible amount of suffering before the dying can be released from your torture. If they start to pass on they must be jerked back to suffer more, and more. It’s kinda horrifying.

How long do you wait to bury someone who’s medically dead? A couple weeks? A month? After all there might be some miracle and they’ll just suddenly sit up and start breathing again. Do you wait for them to actually smell bad?

But whatever... Please stop calling yourself pro-life. Whatever it is you are, it’s something far different and frankly frightening.


18 posted on 09/10/2014 2:15:11 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius

I don’t know what to say to your post except that it is ironic that you would accuse someone else of craving suffering in others.

Beyond that, I have nothing to say to you.


22 posted on 09/11/2014 9:22:58 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ramius; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; TheOldLady; xzins; ...
What is it that makes you crave suffering in others?

Where on earth did you get that idea?

I’m pro life, and against abortion on all cases.

Funny, I don't recall ever seeing you on a pro-life thread and I have a pretty good memory.

I don’t want the state to have the power to end lives because they’re inconvenient.

Are you aware that this case is about just that?

But I also know that people die. Every one of us. It’s merely a question of when and where.

Are you operating under the impression that I'm unaware of this?

I’ve seen post after post of yours for years now, where you seem to have some bizarre fetish not for prolonging life but instead dragging out the process of death— as if you must somehow extract every possible amount of suffering before the dying can be released from your torture.

Again, I don't recall you ever posting to me on any thread, are you just silently stalking me?

If they start to pass on they must be jerked back to suffer more, and more. It’s kinda horrifying.

Please find a single post that I have EVER made that suggests this? Please find a single post where I have EVER disagreed with the right of terminally ill patients to make informed decisions about DNRs and other end-of-life protocols.

How long do you wait to bury someone who’s medically dead? A couple weeks? A month? After all there might be some miracle and they’ll just suddenly sit up and start breathing again. Do you wait for them to actually smell bad?

Why don't you learn what this case is all about:

Hospital staff placed the child in the mother’s arms to die, but the child continued to breathe on her own and opened her eyes. After days went by in this fashion, the parents cancelled the DNR order, and the child later came out of the coma and became alert. Despite this, medical personnel wanted to reinstate the DNR order because they said the baby’s condition was still grave, but the parents would not agree.

This baby IS breathing.

But whatever... Please stop calling yourself pro-life.

I've been called plenty of things on here and anti-FReeper sites, it really doesn't bother me. Nevertheless, I don't recall ANYONE ever suggesting that I'm not pro-life.

Whatever it is you are, it’s something far different and frankly frightening.

So, opposing the wholesale slaughter of the unborn and the murder of the elderly and disabled is "frightening"?

23 posted on 09/11/2014 10:43:29 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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