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Anything to avoid the real issue.
1 posted on 09/10/2014 6:52:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I thought the official plan was hide and/or throw books at them and scream like a little girl.


2 posted on 09/10/2014 6:53:31 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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$65 for every door in every room in every school. And they help you feel good about yourself.


3 posted on 09/10/2014 6:54:42 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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The Sleeve is painted 'Safety Red' much like fire alarms, or fire extinguishers. The idea is to help address concerns of teachers being locked out of their classrooms. Nietzel said the point of the color is to make sure students understand and associate the color with other safety devices. "When students think of this, see this, they think 'ok safety,' this is not to be messed with unless it's a life or death situation," said Nietzel. The Sleeve is small enough to be hidden in a drawer away from students, or can be displayed by the door.

Ah, so students won't lock teachers out of their rooms because it's red. Why don't they just put a lock on the classroom door and paint it red? Wouldn't that work just as well?

Maybe they could put a shotgun in each room to protect against a shooter. They could paint it red and the kids would know that "this is not to be messed with unless it's a life or death situation."

4 posted on 09/10/2014 6:56:11 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Sign up for my new release e-mail and get my first novel for free)
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Its a pretty good idea but I still want a gun to fight back.


7 posted on 09/10/2014 6:58:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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The Sleeve is painted 'Safety Red' much like fire alarms, or fire extinguishers. The idea is to help address concerns of teachers being locked out of their classrooms.

If kids today are even one-tenth as bad as I was, teachers should be locked out of their classrooms the very same day these things get delivered to the school. Red paint won't help.

9 posted on 09/10/2014 6:58:55 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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Gee, how about just locking the door?


11 posted on 09/10/2014 7:02:17 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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14 posted on 09/10/2014 7:04:40 PM PDT by Bratch
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16 posted on 09/10/2014 7:04:47 PM PDT by Brother Cracker (You are more likely to find krugerrands in a Cracker Jack box then 22 ammo at Wal-Mart)
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Let me test it with a few breaching rounds.


18 posted on 09/10/2014 7:14:17 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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This is a better way to buy time:


19 posted on 09/10/2014 7:15:56 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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I want to hear what the local fire marshals think about this. Anything that prevents egress if accidentally deployed is a huge issue with these guys.

School kids are far more likely to be involved in a fire evacuation situation than an “active shooter” situation.


20 posted on 09/10/2014 7:16:53 PM PDT by wrench
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Guaranteed to be used by schoolkids to lock out the teacher 10,000 more than it will ever be used to lock out an active shooter.

BTW: a 9mm will go right through a school door and a 30/30 will go through like it isn’t even there.


21 posted on 09/10/2014 7:19:07 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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2 heavy duty zip ties.
$0.50.
Available in a multitude of safety blanket warm fuzzy inducing colors.


22 posted on 09/10/2014 7:20:18 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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Thought 2.

Has any fire Marshall weighed in on restricting egress?

What happens when the fiends turn to $10 worth of gas instead of killing mom and stealing $2,000 worth of hardware to do their evil?


25 posted on 09/10/2014 7:22:57 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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Sounds good, if the intention is to delay the Shooter from getting in giving the Teacher enough Time to get her Glock out of her purse.

Should I assume the Classroom Doors and Walls are Armor Plated too?


26 posted on 09/10/2014 7:25:46 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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This is kind of reminiscent of the ‘genius’ that figured out bullet proofing book bags.

Now I am sure it is/would have been a good seller but wouldn’t putting books in the bag serve the same purpose?


30 posted on 09/10/2014 7:29:02 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98) If you can't convince them, confuse them.)
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Because hiding and gibbering in fear is the Progs’ only plan.


31 posted on 09/10/2014 7:29:15 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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I work for an architect. We use the office lock function cylidrical locksets in stead of the classroom function on our classroom doors. Any body with a brain can lock the door from inside the classroom even if the teacher isnt present. We also use laminated glass in the view light. This sleeve reeks of code violations.


33 posted on 09/10/2014 7:29:53 PM PDT by Walmartian (I'm their leader. Which way did they go?)
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Met the young man who came up with the idea this summer and I find that fact that he is being mocked for a solution interesting

Couple of things:

1 in the case of a lot of older schools doors are still locked from the outside with the classroom key. So mock all you want about just locking the door but if there is an active shooter in some schools a teacher would have to open the door to lock the kids in...

2. Let’s just change the locks on the doors so they lock from the inside...at $65 dollars per door they end up being a lot cheaper than installing new hardware into the doors where schools on tight budgets can now at least have a possible line of defense.

I’m actually quite amazed that someone comes up with a viable cheaper and realistic alternative (because as simple as arming everyone is for us to say it’s not going to happen) that first and foremost can possibly save the lives of students and teachers and it’s being poo pooed at FR.


45 posted on 09/10/2014 7:52:30 PM PDT by MNlurker
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Purely defensive strategies are doomed to fail. I haven’t seen it, but judging by the description it sounds like leverage would be on the side of the intruder. I’ll bet I could break it and break in.


46 posted on 09/10/2014 8:01:10 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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