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Only Germany is holding together as separatists threaten to rip Europe apart
Telegraph (UK) ^ | 10 September 2014 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 09/12/2014 11:39:05 AM PDT by Lorianne

The increasing predilection for fragmentation across the continent will result in Teutonic political hegemony - if we're lucky ___ Europe is disintegrating. Two large and ancient kingdoms are near the point of rupture as Spain follows Britain into constitutional crisis, joined like Siamese twins.

The post-Habsburg order further east is suddenly prey to a corrosive notion that settled borders are up for grabs. "Problems frozen for decades are warming up again," said Giles Merritt, from Friends of Europe in Brussels.

The best we can hope for - should tribalism prevail - is German political hegemony in Europe. The German people so far remain a bastion of rationalism, holding together as others tear themselves apart. The French are too paralysed by economic depression and the collapse of the Hollande presidency to play any serious role.

The far worse outcome is that even Germany succumbs to centrifugal forces, leaving Europe bereft of coherent leadership, a parochial patchwork, wallowing in victimhood and decline, defenceless against a revanchist Russia that plays by different rules.

Former Nato chief Lord Robertson warns that a British break-up is doubly dangerous, setting off "Balkanisation" dominoes across Europe, and amounting to a body blow for global security at a time when the Middle East is out of control and China is testing its power in Asian waters.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Germany; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; europeoftheregions; eussr; germanhegemony
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To: Lorianne

For my kids sake I hope there will be peace between Eurabia and Amerexico.


21 posted on 09/12/2014 12:15:45 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Dagnabitt

:)

Good point


22 posted on 09/12/2014 12:16:17 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Dagnabitt
For my kids sake I hope there will be peace between Eurabia and Amerexico.

In the North America continent, it will be Estados de Mexico and Texas, eventually to become Greater Texas.

23 posted on 09/12/2014 12:20:14 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Nervous Tick
I’m sure that headline was designed to be scary. But it makes *me* feel all warm and fuzzy inside...

I see no problems with it. It would certainly wake some people up around here, completely discredit the welfare state and possibly destroy the Marxist influence in this country.

Besides, I f*cking hate Europe.
24 posted on 09/12/2014 12:22:57 PM PDT by 98ZJ USMC
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To: roadcat

Well, Greater Texas will need peaceful relations with Canada, New England, the Dixie Republic, Mexifornia, and the Great New York and Chicago Imperia.


25 posted on 09/12/2014 12:23:40 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Lorianne
Great article, thanks for posting. There is absolutely nothing to prevent this breakup enthusiasm from occurring in Germany, as AEP points out. Well, only ze Prussians.

The French will not be paralyzed forever and may object to a Europe quite so Teutonic, although a Europe equally Gallic would probably go over fairly well, recalling the pre-1914 pretensions of French being the world language. French nationalism has a longer pedigree than nearly anyone's, and Germany has only been Germany since 1871, after all.

Such a fissiparous tendency may be a two-edged sword, serving not to increase local power so much as to make it flow toward Brussels. Should the Flemish break off from Belgium, so what? It becomes a District of Columbia for the capital of Europe. In other words, the actual result might be a centralizing tendency as much as a centrifugal one.

Interesting times.

26 posted on 09/12/2014 12:28:19 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: roadcat
No. Texas will go quietly into the night along with every other state.

It's rapidly arriving Hispanic plurality will see to it.

27 posted on 09/12/2014 12:29:01 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Billthedrill
There is absolutely nothing to prevent this breakup enthusiasm from occurring in Germany, as AEP points out. Well, only ze Prussians.

Free Bavaria from its Prussian overlords!


28 posted on 09/12/2014 1:05:51 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Nein! Zere iss only VUN people in Chermany, VUN government, VUN leader! Or, in German, Ein volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhr..." Uh, wait, never mind. Got carried away there. It will be an amicable divorce, I'm sure.
29 posted on 09/12/2014 1:12:15 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: marron

The days of the EU are over—it will be replaced by a new German Empire—a sort of “Co-Prosperity Sphere” that will see a rise in nationalism.


30 posted on 09/12/2014 2:43:21 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Lorianne

What’s changed? Was Spain ever really that much of a power in Europe? How involved was Britain? France and Germany have always been the core of Europe, and once France gets over it’s Hollande funk, maybe they’ll pull their own weight again.


31 posted on 09/12/2014 2:49:29 PM PDT by x
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To: Lorianne

That “pandora’s box” was reopened a very long time ago, and it should never have been closed.

There is nothing wrong with people governing themselves, the only red herring people point is is other country’s conquering territories. Voting for Independence is perfectly legitimate, natural, and necessary to sustaining anything but an oppressive country.

It is only when countrys are as tyrants say ‘divisible’ that their bounds are ever built upon the mutual good will and consent of the governed.


32 posted on 09/12/2014 2:52:15 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Billthedrill
the actual result might be a centralizing tendency as much as a centrifugal one.

Yes, thats how I see it.

It is the presence of the EU structure that makes it possible for these regions to separate amicably and continue to function. I believe, anyway. As you say, if Belgium splits, but both halves are still EU, what is the downside? Similarly, if Barcelona splits from Madrid, but both are EU, not one truckload of produce is lost and not one vacationer fails to arrive at the beach. But in this case, Brussels suddenly becomes essential whereas before it was merely an optional luxury.

33 posted on 09/12/2014 3:17:08 PM PDT by marron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Never mind the author in question.


34 posted on 09/14/2014 11:30:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The London Telegraph calling for German political hegemony in Europe? Now I've seen everything.

You ever seen a man eat his own head?

35 posted on 09/14/2014 11:34:13 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: x

France is done. They were already surrendered to Germany under Sarkozy.


36 posted on 09/14/2014 2:05:30 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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