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NATO countries have begun arms deliveries to Ukraine: defense minister
REUTERS ^ | Sep 14, 2014

Posted on 09/14/2014 10:16:19 AM PDT by McGruff

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To: elhombrelibre
This situation is getting more and more like the Spanish Civil War.
If the Stalinist would stop invading countries, the situation would go away. Instead, the Stalinists(Russians with a fig leaf)will probably continue to practice genocide and mass starvation of innocents.
The Stalinists clearly do have a better social media disinformation campaign than the Ukraine, though the Photoshopped Pro Russian pictures are obvious and clumsy.
TWB
21 posted on 09/14/2014 11:06:20 AM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin, the Flame of the North)
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To: McGruff; FreeReign
And while Azov only has between 300 to 600 members, many of the Russkie agents sent into Ukraine to lead the "separatists" were trained in a Duginist (fascist) training camp as far back as 2006 in preparation for the Ukrainian invasion:

http://anton-shekhovtsov.blogspot.se/2014/08/pro-russian-extremists-in-2006-and-2014.html

Here is Pavel Gubarov, front row third from left. He was or is the Self-Proclaimed Governor of the People's Republic of Donetsk. I know you're a dummy, but even you should be able to recognize the Swastika:

IOW, the Russkies are liberating Ukraine from Nazis using Nazis and other freaks they've been grooming for years or who are also agents of the GRU.

22 posted on 09/14/2014 11:12:01 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: McGruff
I wasn’t aware of this.

Perfectly qualifying you to present us with the Kremlin point of view, as you do.

23 posted on 09/14/2014 11:16:14 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Just like in the tv comedy "Fawlty Towers."

"Whatever you do, don't mention Zhirinovsky.

24 posted on 09/14/2014 11:18:46 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: TWhiteBear
And since we are using historical observations. The Holodomor (Ukrainian: Голодомор, "Extermination by hunger" or "Hunger-extermination";[2] derived from 'морити голодом', "to kill by starvation" [3][4][5]) was a famine in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1932 and 1933 that killed up to about 10 million Ukrainians according to Stanislav Kulchytsky.[6] During the famine, which is also known as the "Terror-Famine in Ukraine" and "Famine-Genocide in Ukraine",[7][8][9] millions of citizens of the Ukrainian SSR, the majority of whom were Ukrainians, died of starvation in a peacetime catastrophe unprecedented in the history of Ukraine.[10] Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by the independent Ukraine and several other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people.[11].. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor Some of the Russian/Soviet propaganda and propagandists are as obvious at the phony Photoshops.
TWB
25 posted on 09/14/2014 11:20:03 AM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin, the Flame of the North)
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To: The Toll
Are we giving them to the Nazis or the moderate Nazis.

These closest analogue would be the Russians, given that they have the population and the natural resources to be a world-conquering power. Since we're not handing weaponry to the Russians, there's no danger of Nazis getting hold of them. Besides, the idea of Slavs being Nazis is laughable. What are they gonna do - kill themselves so Aryans can rule the roost?

26 posted on 09/14/2014 11:23:37 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: grania
Are there any moderate Nazis in Kiev?

I'm convinced there aren't any Nazis in Kiev. And by Nazi I mean people who want to exterminate the Slavs to pave the way for Aryan rule. Poroshenko the Jew is certainly no Nazi.

27 posted on 09/14/2014 11:25:18 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: McGruff
During the military occupation of Ukraine by Nazi Germany, a large number of Ukrainians chose to cooperate with the Nazis. Reasons for this generally included resurgent Ukrainian nationalism and aspirations for independence, however these were coupled with rampant racism towards other ethnic groups (such as Tatars, Roma peoples and Poles) as well as a prevailing sentiment of antisemitism. However, the absence of Ukrainian autonomy under the Nazis, mistreatment by the occupiers, and the deportation of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians as slave laborers, soon led to a rapid change in the attitude among the collaborators.

And the Russians cooperated with the Germans to divide up Poland via the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Russia not only cooperated with Germany to invade Poland; Russia supplied the German invasion of France. Without (1) Russian supplies, (2) a quiet Eastern Front and (3) a conquered Poland, would Germany have dared to invade France? Would WWII have occurred without Russian duplicity? If cooperation with the Nazis for Polish territory and German cash was good enough for a sovereign Russian empire, it was good enough for Ukrainians held hostage under German occupation for whom the alternative was physical extermination.

28 posted on 09/14/2014 11:33:39 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
That the one thing the Russians always seem to overlook, mysteriously.

Say you are a Russian, minding your own business and dutifully occupying another country that your military invaded some time ago. Say some Germans attack you, and push you out . . . are you really surprised that some portion of the locals greeted the Germans as liberators?

29 posted on 09/14/2014 11:49:54 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff
Damn - I get to plane crash late! All rings and gold fillings gone! Only find this sh-t in hands of dead Dutch kid! Putin promise me Rolex!


30 posted on 09/14/2014 12:07:04 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Crimean Tatars have been living peacefully in Ukraine for a long time and have a long history of persecution

I love when Tatar is used to whitewash Islam. Those poor Muzzies. Let's give them their Ottoman Empire back so they will feed better.

31 posted on 09/14/2014 12:53:22 PM PDT by palmer (This comment is not approved or cleared by FDA)
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To: McGruff

Kewl, Ukraine needs lots of tank killers, napalm, cluster bombs and some tactical nukes...so do Russia’s other neighbors. Russians are so special they should glow!

Give every Ukrainian either a sniper rifle, AK-47 or shotgun and let the invaders come!


32 posted on 09/14/2014 2:42:12 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: palmer
I love when Tatar is used to whitewash Islam.

Then go lead some Tatars or Pro-American Kurds to a concentration camp to make your point against Islam.

33 posted on 09/14/2014 3:16:15 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Zhang Fei
I'm convinced there aren't any Nazis in Kiev.

No, they're in Mariupol...and they're gonna get slaughtered.


34 posted on 09/14/2014 4:42:40 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
No, they're in Mariupol...and they're gonna get slaughtered.

If they're Slavs, they're not Nazis.

35 posted on 09/14/2014 5:02:25 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: mac_truck

Now, they might be fascists, like much of Latin America and Mussolini-era Italy. But that’s not the same thing as being Nazis. But the way Russian propaganda works, maybe you’ll be accusing Jews of being Nazis. (Which you’ve already done, by fingering Poroshenko as one).


36 posted on 09/14/2014 5:05:19 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
No...Azov are full blown Ukrainian Nazis, right down to their Waffen SS back, chest, arm and skull ink. Just like their parents and grand parents before them were and still are. They're not denying it either...so why should you?

As for Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko...if they are not fortunate enough to flee the Ukraine by next year, they'll either be killed in the next Maidan coup or captured and sentenced to death in Novorussia for war crimes committed by the golem they created.

37 posted on 09/14/2014 6:04:28 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
No...Azov are full blown Ukrainian Nazis, right down to their Waffen SS back, chest, arm and skull ink. Just like their parents and grand parents before them were and still are.

Wow, how many Nazis does that make out of 300 to 600 people? If you multiply for generational Naziism, that is.

As for Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko...if they are not fortunate enough to flee the Ukraine by next year, they'll either be killed in the next Maidan coup or captured and sentenced to death in Novorussia for war crimes committed by the golem they created.

Don't worry Russkie, lying scum like you, when you die, will burn in hell with your beloved comrades of Novorussiya. You are an anti-American obscenity.

38 posted on 09/14/2014 8:13:04 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: mac_truck

“full blown Ukrainian Nazis”

Several million short of full blown Russian Nazis.


39 posted on 09/15/2014 4:44:35 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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