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To: rktman
Condition one or Condition three. One will always be faster, although there are some people who can bring a gun to action from three faster than one would believe. Which is best? Well, when SHTF one is better. However, if someone doesn't feel comfortable with one - for whatever reason - then three is perfectly valid as long as someone practices consistently to engage from it (including from disadvantageous positions).

What irks me, however, is when some people say that people who carry in three should not own a gun. Truth is that most people will never need to use their firearms for self defense, and moreover, those who need to use it will almost never be in a situation where they don't have that second to rack the slide. Sure, situation like the Trayvon /Zimmerman situation can arise (someone on top of you pounding your face in), or a situation where your arm is injured and you're trying to rack the slide using your night sights off your belt ...but most self defense situations are not that.

Thus the argument that gun owners who carry in three need to sell the gun and buy mace is moot. A gun will always be a prudent choice.

And talking about statistics ....I am sure there are SIGNIFICANTLY more people who have had negligent/accidental discharges carrying condition one than there have been people carrying condition three who have been killed by assailants because they didn't have that second to rack the slide.

25 posted on 09/17/2014 12:43:16 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

I’ve seen videos, some people are VERY fast from condition 3.
But for me Travon Martin proved to me why I carry condition 1.
I depend on keeping my trigger covered with a good holster, keeping my booger hook off the bang switch, and the approximately 3 mile long trigger pull on my PF-9 to protect me from negligent discharges.


34 posted on 09/17/2014 1:27:13 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: spetznaz

My firearms instructor related a personal anecdote of his where he felt he was being sized up for an attack or robbery and merely pulling out his pistol and making it visible resolved the situation. I doubt that a can of mace would have worked as well.


35 posted on 09/17/2014 2:01:51 PM PDT by Controlling Legal Authority
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To: spetznaz
I'm a 3. Tried 1 just walking around my property but I found that I was constantly aware of and checking my gun's thumb safety.

I'm just not comfortable with 1 and even though, as you say, I've repeatedly been told that I'll be dead within 30 seconds of holstering my gun in C-3, I'm still here.

Your explanation pretty much covers how I think about the whole issue...but was too lazy to put down.

46 posted on 09/17/2014 3:25:48 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: spetznaz

A situation like the Trayvon /Zimmerman situation can arise. If it did arise, any level headed carrier would change his weapon to Condition One before he got out of the car.


55 posted on 09/17/2014 4:06:15 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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