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One in four Americans want their state to secede from the U.S., but why?
Rueters ^ | September 19, 2014 | Jim Gaines

Posted on 09/20/2014 9:42:40 AM PDT by Leaning Right

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To: Sherman Logan

Yeah, but is that not legitimate in a way? It measures overall support for some form of dissolution, which is a valid thing to measure. Unless the people wishing to secede for opposite reasons are in the same state or other subdivision that would secede, thus rendering it pointless, but I think for the most part that’s not the case.


21 posted on 09/20/2014 10:05:05 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Thorliveshere

Which....is....a....problem....because.....?


22 posted on 09/20/2014 10:05:43 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Leaning Right

Why? Why not? There gets to be a point in which there is nothing to lose. Open borders, no rule of law, a government that has devolved into a banana-republic run by socialist elites funded by crony capitalism, a populace that has become so spineless that it cowers before every ludicrous PC dictate, and a sick, poisonous culture that promotes nothing but deviancy and homosex.

What is really left of America to want to remain a part of?


23 posted on 09/20/2014 10:07:22 AM PDT by greene66
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To: Leaning Right

The south may rise again. Just wait till I can move there first please.


24 posted on 09/20/2014 10:08:19 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: Leaning Right

Antietam.

This question has been tried and settled in American blood. The answer is no.

25 posted on 09/20/2014 10:08:48 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Leaning Right

States can never secede from the U.S.

Clearly no States intended to give up that right when they first joined the union, but the right to secede was taken away by conquest in the War Between the States.


26 posted on 09/20/2014 10:09:06 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Leaning Right

I have a theory that it would be even higher in the Southeast but for the large “minority” population there.


27 posted on 09/20/2014 10:10:01 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: McGruff

Better move fast, then.


28 posted on 09/20/2014 10:10:06 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Leaning Right
Because the US feral government is engaged in a criminal RICO conspiracy by selectively enforcing existing US law?

Just a thought.

29 posted on 09/20/2014 10:11:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: mikrofon

Now, if only Illinois could secede from Chicago.


30 posted on 09/20/2014 10:11:10 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Still Thinking

Haha! Right, exactly!


31 posted on 09/20/2014 10:12:49 AM PDT by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: Leaning Right; All

As mentioned in related threads, as consequence of parents not making sure that their children are being taught about the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers, constitutionally-ignorant patriots are unable to stop the lies being told by both the media and the corrupt federal government about the federal government’s so-called wide powers.


32 posted on 09/20/2014 10:14:15 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Thorliveshere

Lone Star Republic


33 posted on 09/20/2014 10:14:51 AM PDT by Zenjitsuman (New Boss Nancy Pelosi)
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To: Leaning Right
New England (19%).

too much reliance on big guvment.

Southwest (34%)

has seen the incompetence of big guvment.

34 posted on 09/20/2014 10:15:56 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: slumber1
The constitution made secession illegal? Which article contains that clause?

The Constitution only provides for the addition of states to the Union. It does not provide for secession. The Supreme Court ruled, in Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1869) that the Constitution is therefore a contract - binding on all parties unless ALL parties agree to dissolve it - and just as one party cannot unilateral tear up a contract one state cannot unilaterally secede from the union.

35 posted on 09/20/2014 10:16:14 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Leaning Right

DC has already seceeded. Do we go with them or stay in the Republic?


36 posted on 09/20/2014 10:17:07 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Is there even a democratic mechanism for allowing this?

Some folks argue that the 10th Amendment would allow it: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

But of course no federal bureaucrat or judge would agree.

So the only way to do it democratically would be by a new amendment to the Constitution, one that would allow citizens of a state to vote on the issue.

Good luck getting that one passed.

And it all goes back to this. The US government is strongly for letting folks everywhere else in the world vote on independence. But it ain't happening here. That's ironic, to the point of being hypocritical.

37 posted on 09/20/2014 10:19:09 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: mrsmel
I have a theory that it would be even higher in the Southeast but for the large “minority” population there.

I disagree. Reasonably sure the South would never have contemplated secession in the first place if it weren't for the peculiar presence of large numbers of black people in the South.

38 posted on 09/20/2014 10:19:51 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: clintonh8r
Corrected headline for the grammatically impaired at Reuters: One in Four Americans Wants His State to Secede from the U.S., but Why?

Grammatically, you are of course correct. But you are very politically incorrect! "His" is so sexist!

What are you trying to do, get in a fight with NOW?

39 posted on 09/20/2014 10:22:26 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right
One in four Americans want their state to secede from the U.S., but why?

Getting rid of the evil of the Federal Government gives 'em a better position to fight the evil of their State Government.

40 posted on 09/20/2014 10:23:19 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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