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To: Pelham

You’re locked in an off-the-shelf dismissal of reality.

Perhaps you’ve forgotten how “Stormin Norman” was halted form finishing the job by Saddam’s man on the inside.

We’re not all limited by your darkened screen.

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82 posted on 09/22/2014 10:34:18 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Perhaps you’ve forgotten how “Stormin Norman” was halted form finishing the job by Saddam’s man on the inside.”

Okay, I always enjoy a glimpse into the comic environs of the alternate universe. Who do you mean by “ Saddam’s man on the inside”?

In the real world military strategy isn’t set by one man unless that one man happens to be President.

GWH Bush and his principle advisor Brent Scrowcroft were foreign policy realists whose only goal was booting Iraq out of Kuwait. They had no intention of getting stuck with the Iraq tarbaby. That ill conceived project was the brainchild of Dubya and his merry band of revolutionary utopians, who imagined that through the magic of democracy they could transform an ancient society and its violent religion.

http://washingtonnote.com/brent_scowcroft_2/

“A principal reason that the Bush Administration gave no thought to unseating Saddam was that Brent Scowcroft gave no thought to it. An American occupation of Iraq would be politically and militarily untenable, Scowcroft told Bush. And though the President had employed the rhetoric of moral necessity to make the case for war, Scowcroft said, he would not let his feelings about good and evil dictate the advice he gave the President.

“It would have been no problem for America’s military to reach Baghdad, he said. The problems would have arisen when the Army entered the Iraqi capital. “At the minimum, we’d be an occupier in a hostile land,” he said. “Our forces would be sniped at by guerrillas, and, once we were there, how would we get out? What would be the rationale for leaving? I don’t like the term ‘exit strategy’ — but what do you do with Iraq once you own it?””

“. “This is exactly where we are now,” he said of Iraq, with no apparent satisfaction. “We own it. And we can’t let go. We’re getting sniped at. Now, will we win? I think there’s a fairchance we’ll win. But look at the cost.”
The first Gulf War was a success, Scowcroft said, because the President knew better than to set unachievable goals. “I’m not a pacifist,” he said. “I believe in the use of force. But there has to be a good reason for using force. And you have to know when to stop using force.” Scowcroft does not believe that the promotion of American-style democracy abroad is a sufficiently good reason to use force.
“I thought we ought to make it our duty to help make the world friendlier for the growth of liberal regimes,” he said. “You encourage democracy over time, with assistance, and aid, the traditional way. Not how the neocons do it.””


85 posted on 09/22/2014 12:47:26 PM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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