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Tennesseeans: Don't Vote for Governor!
her own self | Augus 22, 2014 | Mrs Don-o

Posted on 09/22/2014 10:30:04 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

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1 posted on 09/22/2014 10:30:04 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

A non vote is a vote nonetheless, so you might as well vote for who you would LIKE to win even if it appears hopeless, you never know. BTW that is exactly why Ali Bama got re-elected, too many conservatives did not vote, thereby casting their vote FOR Obama.... Just saying.


2 posted on 09/22/2014 10:34:51 AM PDT by WP Lonestar (No matter where you go, there you are)
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To: WP Lonestar

Oh sure, blame the conservatives who couldn’t in good conscience vote for Liberal Romney. Don’t blame the GOP-E which cooperated with the gay lamestream media to boost Romney as the GOP nominee.


3 posted on 09/22/2014 10:39:05 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: rodneyd; animal172; Devman; J. Austin Becton; Tes2fy; republican4sure; slowbeam; TN4Bush; ...

Comments sincerely sought.


4 posted on 09/22/2014 10:41:20 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Don’t think it would change any candidates mind.

However hitting the streets by the hundreds of thousands, might put the fear of God in one or the other...maybe!


5 posted on 09/22/2014 10:45:33 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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BUT if the count of total ballots cast, regardless of whether a vote for governor is registered, is the measuring rod then you will kill the amendment with this strategy of not voting for governor.


6 posted on 09/22/2014 10:46:11 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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No, No, No. That's not the point at all. The point is the DUAL-MAJORITY requirement on amendiong the TN Constitution, which means that eery vote for governor raises the bar on how many votes a proposition has to get, in order to win.

No matter who conservative-activists vote for on the Governor line, it will not make a a difference in the outcome: Haslin will win, like it or not.

That's simply a foregone conclusion.

But it WILL make a difference to the Propositions. Because of the Dual majority Rule, YesOn1 votes must top the majority of votes cast for governor. Therefore every "redundant" vote cast for governor, raises the bar for how many votes the Propositions or Amendments have to get.

I guess I didn't explain that adequately?

Is there a better way to explain it?

7 posted on 09/22/2014 10:46:53 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: DannyTN
Non sequitur
8 posted on 09/22/2014 10:47:53 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: DannyTN
Oh sure, blame the conservatives who couldn’t in good conscience vote for Liberal Romney.

...then there are the NINETY MILLION eligible voters who sat home and didn't vote for anyone...

9 posted on 09/22/2014 10:47:59 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: PoloSec
I'm afraid I failed to make my point. I am not trying to change any candidate's mind. This has nothing to do with candidates.

I am trying to pass YesOn1, which is on the Nov. ballot.

Every ballot cast for governor, raises the number of votes legally required for the Proposition to win. It's a peculiarity of the TN Constitution.

Thus every vote cast for governor, makes it harder to pass a Proposition.

If you were trying to explain this, how would you explain it?

10 posted on 09/22/2014 10:51:34 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: MHGinTN
How does this kill the amendment? I'm not getting that.

Can you clarify?

11 posted on 09/22/2014 10:58:31 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I'm here to learn.)
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Strange as this is, it appears to be real.

Link to the Tenn Constitution - See Amendment Process - Legislative Method

"Legislative method[edit]
Under the legislative method (which is a quite lengthy process), the Tennessee General Assembly must pass a resolution calling for an amendment and stating its wording, and must do so in three separate readings on three separate days, with an absolute majority on all readings. The resolution does not require the governor's approval.

The amendment must then be published at least six months before the next legislative election, but is not placed on the ballot at that time. Instead, once the legislative election is held, the proposed amendment must go another three readings, three day voting process. At this stage the amendment now requires approval of 2/3 of the legislature on each vote.

Finally, the amendment is placed on the ballot as a referendum coinciding with the next gubernatorial election. For the amendment to pass, the number of yes votes must be greater than one-half the number of votes cast for governor.

It does seem a viable strategy to not vote for Governor and vote for the amendment, to increase the odds that the amendment passes.

This strategy could be applied by both sides, those for Haslam and those against.

Does anybody know the history of amendment voting. What ratio to governor votes is usually obtained? Have proposed amendments failed in the past for failure to exceed 1/2 of the votes for governor?

12 posted on 09/22/2014 10:59:41 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Mrs. Don-o

If I lived in TN I would at least be able to vote YES on 1 but wouldn’t vote for Alexander or Haslam under any circumstances because they are the business as usual GOPe machine candidates. And of course I wouldn’t vote for Corker when he comes up for re-election.


13 posted on 09/22/2014 10:59:50 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: DannyTN

I despised Romney, but I sure as hell refused to vote FOR Obama by not voting..


14 posted on 09/22/2014 11:01:05 AM PDT by WP Lonestar (No matter where you go, there you are)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m asking a very technical question: does the counting contrast rely on number of ballots cast in the election, OR on the number of votes cast for governor?


15 posted on 09/22/2014 11:03:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: WP Lonestar

Refraining from voting for governor is a tactic to effectively double the number of votes for a very important constitutional amendment on the ballot. The rules are arcane and hard to follow but essentially for the amendment to pass, it must receive 50% + 1 of the total number of votes cast for the governor. By refraining from voting for governor, you reduce the number of votes needed for the amendment to pass.


16 posted on 09/22/2014 11:05:45 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: WP Lonestar

I couldn’t vote for either one.

But Romney won TN, so my lack of vote didn’t matter. But if I was forced to vote, I might have voted for Obama. After all, if rat policies and promotion of gays is going to be done by both candidates, I’d rather have the democrats take the blame.


17 posted on 09/22/2014 11:05:54 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: WP Lonestar

I think I vcted for the Constitution party, so at least my vote registered for something not represented by either party.


18 posted on 09/22/2014 11:08:32 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Mrs. Don-o

In most states the amendment process by ballot referendum will call for a certain % of the ballots cast in the last gubernatorial election, not the one being voted on at the time.

I have no idea how it works in TN though.


19 posted on 09/22/2014 11:21:10 AM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: DannyTN; don-o
Good questions. I was just looking into this, and I don't have all the figures, but the recent history looks like this:

I don't have all the facts and figures. Even these were rather time-consuming to dig out.

It looks, however,like YesOn1 has a chance, despite the fact that we have almost no money, and the Abortion Industry is putting a quarter of a million dollars behind the "NO" campaign.

We've got a good chance ESPECIALLY of there's an over-all light turnout, and peolpe decide to skip voting for governor!

20 posted on 09/22/2014 11:37:33 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I'm here to learn.)
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