Beavercreek Walmart surveillance tape shows shooting, 9-1-1 call (video)

Cleveland.com ^ | Sep 24, 2014 | Jeremy Pelzer

[Half Vast Conspiracy]

Editor's note: It is the general policy of Northeast Ohio Media Group not to show images of people being killed. We chose to publish this video because it addresses questions that have been raised about the behavior of the suspect and the police.

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine released a surveillance video Wednesday showing John Crawford III being shot to death by police last month in a Dayton-area Walmart.

DeWine's release of the video and 9-1-1 recording coincided with a Greene County grand jury finding that Beavercreek police were justified in shooting the 22-year-old man, whom they believed was armed with a rifle.

In the footage, Crawford is seen talking on a cell phone and waving what turned out to be an air rifle at the end of a store aisle. Police arrived after a 9-1-1 caller reported that a man was waving around a gun and pointing it at people.

[caww]

the family will ask the U.S. attorney’s office to oversee the inquiry.......”We want a set of independent eyes that can take an unbiased look,” Wright’s father said.

[caww]

Correction.....This is the mother of Crawfords kids...not his mother...

[caww]

There were two instances where he said the guy with the gun was pointing......one he said he was pointing the gun ‘at people’...the other ‘children’....don’t blame me for what he said or didn’t ansell....that’s what the video tells.

He did not say Crawford was ‘threatening’ other customers.

The fact is no matter which way this plays out in court, if it goes there....the guys dead and certainly had no clue how to handle firearms, nor did he care.

[Half Vast Conspiracy]

Mother of Crawford

Now I see where you're coming from.

[MaxMax]

I was on topic, and you're accusing me of what you're doing, Trolling?
Maybe you should go back to DU since you cannot logically engage in rational
discussion.

[Half Vast Conspiracy]

Yawn. Irrelevant.

[Half Vast Conspiracy]

I’ll put you down for “C”.

Thanks

[Half Vast Conspiracy]

I don't think the 911 caller lied in his call

He has since recanted.

[MaxMax]

I was thinking about that. With Travon the other person on his phone was found.
But I haven't seen anything about who he was on the phone with, and what the
discussion was about just before the incident. If there was someone on the phone at all.

In some knockout videos you see the perps on their phone I suppose to make people
think they're distracted and not posing an immediate threat. Just an observation.

[ansel12]

"Further the gun did point at the kids while he was swinging it around"

"The caller was right saying the guy with the gun was pointing it ‘at People’"

"He was swinging the gun around as kids walked by."

No, wrong, he never pointed at kids, nor at anyone else according to the caller after he looked at the video.

Why are so hysterical and committed to selling your hysteria to everyone else?

[MaxMax]

Wow, looks like your ordinary average BB-Pellet gun to me. No idea how
Any officer of the law could mistake this plastic TOY for a real firearm
and be all trigger happy about it being pointed around at people in a Store.
/S

All the posters here crying Police Brutality are very sadly mistaken
and should be viewed as complete fools.

[MaxMax]

How do you know he didn't point the gun at people.? He was walking around the store
and the other Caller may not have witnessed it. And just because the
Video didn't record it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

You're conclusions are wrong and cannot be backed up to prove any caller
was wrong about this crazy mans actions. Period.

He was raising and lowering the weapon, he was pointing it at people whether
he meant to or not. He was being irresponsible for the safety of others
in handling that FIREARM. BB or not, it's a FIREARM, and it looks like a serious weapon.

[MaxMax]

He has since recanted.

Could you please point to where he recanted and what was said?
Clarification would be helpful to back your statement up..

[antidisestablishment]

You obviously need to get some understanding of terms. Here is the legal definition, according to your masters at the ATF:

The term “firearm” is defined in the Gun Control Act of 1968, 18 U.S.C. Section 921(a)(3), to include (A) any weapon (including a starter gun), which will, or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; (B) the frame or receiver of any such weapon…. Based on Section 921(a)(3), air guns, because they use compressed air and not an explosive to expel a projectile, do not constitute firearms under Federal law — unless they are manufactured with the frames or receivers of an actual firearm. Accordingly, the domestic sale and possession of air guns is normally unregulated under the Federal firearms laws enforced by ATF. We caution that ATF is not charged with enforcement or oversight of the firearms laws of States or localities. To determine possible restrictions on air guns where you reside, we recommend that you contact the office of your state Attorney General, the State Police, or other State/local law enforcement authorities for further guidance.

[ohioman]

Good post. Of course the NAACP will elevate the dummy to Sainthood.

[MaxMax]

I don't see Officers stopping to inspect the muzzle of a Rifle that looks
like a .308 assault rifle. I consider any projectile firing weapon that can
take a life, a Firearm. The pellet from that barrel can kill you just as
dead as a .22 or 12-guage.

Robbing a bank with a pellet gun isn't any less a crime as robbing a bank with a 5.56.
Pointing a BB gun or any gun at anybody at any time is considered assault, a crime.
In those terms it is prosecuted as a Firearm, toy or not.

Now, pointing a stick isn't a crime. Maybe the nutjob in Walmart should've
picked up a broom handle instead.

[Eagles6]

This Walmart they have always been boxed with 2 security cables and an alarm. You have to ask the clerk to open it and you can't just leave and carry it around the store unboxed. I have never seen them just sitting out.

Neither you nor I know what he was thinking but what he DID was incredibly stupid.

[ansel12]

In the video we have, he doesn’t point the BB gun at people in the store.....where they sell the BB gun.

Richie says he never pointed the BB gun at people (after he recanted)...... in the store where they sell the BB gun.

You decide to conclude that not only did he point the gun at people but that he needed to be killed.

Well there you are, another senseless killing.

[antidisestablishment]

I don’t know—I try to stay out of Walmart. Yes, it was stupid, but not criminal. Damn shame any way.

[martinidon]

I agree with you, I do not fault the Police here. I am sure after finding out it was a toy gun and watching the video the Officer who shot the man feels bad. We all can Monday morning quarterback all we want; but the bottom line is the Police thought they were going into an extremely dangerous situation and acted appropriately. You don’t get a second chance if this was a real assault rifle and a lunatic handling it.