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Dashboard video shows shooting of unarmed driver
http://news.yahoo.com ^ | 09/25/2014 | By JEFFREY COLLINS

Posted on 09/25/2014 10:42:36 AM PDT by redreno

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — An unarmed man shot by a South Carolina trooper during a traffic stop repeated one question through his anguished cries as he lay wounded, waiting for an ambulance: "Why did you shoot me?"

Levar Jones' painful groans and then-Trooper Sean Groubert's reply — "Well you dove head first back into your car" — were captured by a dashboard camera in the trooper's car.

Groubert had stopped Jones on a seatbelt violation at a Columbia gas station and fired the shots moments after asking Jones for his license

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: South Carolina
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To: 12th_Monkey

No. Cops aren’t mind readers. Thus when a cop sees a traffic infraction and pulls a car, he should just shoot whoever is in the car immediately because he can’t divine what the people in the car might do.


61 posted on 09/25/2014 11:28:20 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: 12th_Monkey

I’m just courious..Be serious.


62 posted on 09/25/2014 11:29:50 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: redreno
Groubert is white and Jones is black, but neither state police nor the FBI keep detailed statistics on the races of people in officer-involved shootings.

The FBI figures below include the majority of all police departments. The point of this reply is to point out that whites are the most likely to die while being arrested. The Obama-Holder U.S. Dept. Just Us and the race-grievance industry will of course exploit this shooting to the max vis-a-vis race more than any concern for the poor victim.

The FBI stats show that whites are more likely to die while being arrested and IMO there is no doubt that some of those deaths were the intention of the police.

What about the larger number of whites and Arrest-Related Deaths (ARD)? Why is that okay with Obama, the race-grievance industry, and the media? We never see coverage of questionable ARDs involving whites that's anything close to Ferguson.

Arrest-Related Deaths, 2003-2009 - Statistical Tables

"From 2003 through 2009, a total of 4,813 deaths were reported to the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ (BJS) Arrest-Related Deaths (ARD) program."

Of these, about 6 in 10 deaths (2,931) were classified as homicide by law enforcement personnel, and 4 in 10 (1,882) were attributed to other manners of death.

Table 1 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death, 2003-2009

Manner of death 2003-2009 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
All manners 4,813 627 673 689 721 745 629 729
Homicide —by law enforcement 2,931 376 375 377 447 455 404 497
by other persons 27 3 4 4 2 7 3 4
Suicide 541 60 84 82 67 78 76 94
Intoxication 525 83 83 90 76 89 54 50
Accidental injury 272 53 41 47 39 35 28 29
Natural causes 244 26 46 32 34 42 33 31
Unknown 273 26 40 57 56 39 31 24
Note: Due to variation in reporting, caution should be used in comparing counts from year to year. See Methodology for information on missing data by state for each year. Counts may differ from previous publication due to additional information.

Table 5 Number of reported arrest-related deaths, by manner of death and demographic characteristics, 2003-2009

Demographic
characteristics
All manners Homicide Suicide Intoxication Accident Natural causes Unknown
Total 4,813 2,958 541 525 272 244 273
Sex
Male 4,594 2,851 517 490 259 218 259
Female 218 107 24 35 13 26 13
Unknown 1 0 0 0 0 0 1
Race/Hispanic origin
White, non-Hispanic 2,026 1,233 327 178 95 110 83
Black, non-Hispanic 1,529 937 80 217 111 85 99
Hispanic 949 599 110 109 55 29 47
Other* 150 107 12 17 4 4 6
Unknown 159 82 12 4 7 16 38
Age
17 or younger 127 99 6 5 13 0 4
18-24 909 685 80 53 54 10 27
25-34 1,391 893 140 177 65 41 75
35-44 1,238 658 159 190 78 66 87
45-54 752 390 105 84 45 75 53
55 or older 317 188 44 11 12 52 10
Unknown 79 45 7 5 5 0 17
*Includes American Indians, Alaska Natives, Asians, Native Hawaiians, other Pacific Islanders, and persons of two or more races.

To me this shows that it is not a racial thing. It happens to all races. These figures however do not show those thought "murdered" by police. I have not yet located data for recent years. Why can't I find data for recent years? I do not know.. maybe the Dept of Just Us and Race-Grievance Industry don't want it known that whites are the most likely to die being arrested.

63 posted on 09/25/2014 11:30:30 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: redreno

Check out the photo of that cop. Look at those cold, soulless eyes. Obviously the type who joined the police force for the sake of Authority, so that he could boss people around and legally hurt and/or kill them. He just happens to be the one who didn’t get away with it.


64 posted on 09/25/2014 11:31:19 AM PDT by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy)
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To: 12th_Monkey
I see you're applying for the "Thread Imbecile" position.

I think you got this one in the bag. Keep up the good work.

65 posted on 09/25/2014 11:32:02 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: I want the USA back
Trying this again...

South Carolina trooper charged in shooting of unarmed man

66 posted on 09/25/2014 11:32:21 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: I want the USA back

Oh no...let’s just shoot him and send his corpse to his wife. Then let’s pay the victim $ 100000000 because his reaching into the car would not have endangered the officer until the shotgun actually was discharged into the cop’s chest. We need a rule that says, “Until the gun actually kills you, you must not, cannot return fire.” There we go, boys.


67 posted on 09/25/2014 11:33:11 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: lapsus calami

Is it safe to discharge firearms at gas pumps?...hmmm Cop screwed up BIGTIME.


68 posted on 09/25/2014 11:33:32 AM PDT by mythenjoseph (Seperation of powers)
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To: vette6387

See? If you don’t wear your seat belt you can get killed.


69 posted on 09/25/2014 11:33:52 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

but why do some drivers NOT keep their license ON THEIR PERSON?....Sitting on your wallet can can give you a back ache, pain in your hips and cause you to walk like a cripple if you go any further than 10 miles. Ask any chiropractor, physical therapist or doctor. I put mine in/on the console.


70 posted on 09/25/2014 11:34:00 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: BenLurkin

I’d be willing to bet that the dash cam was on long before that little clip shown. But that little segment shows all the media wants people to see, bad cop.

Did the cop run the license plate before the stop and it came back as a repeat felon, gang member, with a violent record as long as your arm? Cops run a plate before they stop anyone.

Little details like that don’t help the story the media wants to portray though, bad cop.

The cop likely did shoot to fast, but we don’t know the details of why he might have been on edge about the guy.


71 posted on 09/25/2014 11:36:55 AM PDT by Beagle8U (If illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants, then shoplifters are undocumented customers.)
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To: arthurus

Law enforcement has always attracted the type of person who wants to wear a phallus/gun on their hip as proof of the masculinity they are unsure of-but the psychological screening used in the past weeded most of that type out before they ever started training, and kept those who were more motivated to assist others and prevent real crime.

I don’t know how the hiring process has changed in the last 15 or so years, but whatever it is letting in every loose cannon and giving them a gun-and making the rest of us fear being assaulted or shot for a minor traffic violation...


72 posted on 09/25/2014 11:41:39 AM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up yoiur boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: aomagrat
The cop has been fired and arrested for felony aggravated assault.

That is near to being something new under the sun.

73 posted on 09/25/2014 11:42:16 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: All

Well...Think about it...Why would this be news, unless the purpose was to incite further tension???

This has to be happening a LOT more than makes the news outside the immediate area...

The insane solution that you might not be surprised about is that some would champion Black cops for black civilian areas, and White cops, for white civilian areas...

Absolutely NO interracial contact to be made till an officer of the “right” color responds to the scene...

It would only make sense to the Jesse Jackson’s and Al Sharpton’s of the world...

Nevermind the “real” effectiveness of such an asinine solution, but that would be secondary to the overall problem fomented by the race pimps in the black community...

Yeah, I already know, I’ve been called a racist well before such incidents occur...

Yawn...

BTW, the cop DID act a little bit too quick on the application of deadly force in this situation...And now he is not the only one paying for it...


74 posted on 09/25/2014 11:44:05 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

If I buy something at a drive through window (or use an ATM) I don’t put my wallet back in my front pocket until I am getting out of the car.

Such a case would explain the guy not wearing his seatbelt - he normally puts it on as part of getting into the car and this time he later took it off to raise up and get his wallet out.

The conservative position (for all of you nanny state liberals on this thread) is that seatbelt laws are an unconcionable intrusion into the lives of the citizenry. On the other hand, insurance policies that are void if the customer isn’t wearing a seatbelt is legitimate.


75 posted on 09/25/2014 11:44:38 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

If I buy something at a drive through window (or use an ATM) I don’t put my wallet back in my front pocket until I am getting out of the car.

Such a case would explain the guy not wearing his seatbelt - he normally puts it on as part of getting into the car and this time he later took it off to raise up and get his wallet out.

The conservative position (for all of you nanny state liberals on this thread) is that seatbelt laws are an unconcionable intrusion into the lives of the citizenry. On the other hand, insurance policies that are void if the customer isn’t wearing a seatbelt is legitimate.


76 posted on 09/25/2014 11:44:38 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

...and get this stupid, invasive law off the books. Another SAAAAAFETY Trojan Horse, it’s nothing more than a snooper’s charter for cops.


77 posted on 09/25/2014 11:45:10 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

If you are keeping your wallet in your back pocket while driving you are looking for back & hip problems.


78 posted on 09/25/2014 11:46:19 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: NEMDF

Oddly enough, they seem to come to the defense of the side of the black person when it’s obvious the black person was in the wrong.
A case like this where the white cop was clearly in the wrong will be ignored.
I don’t know why.


79 posted on 09/25/2014 11:54:36 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: 12th_Monkey

no,he just needs to shoot everybody he stops for his own saftey.a sceared man with a gun will kill you.i had rather be up aganist the bravest man in the world.and most cops are afraid of their own shadow.


80 posted on 09/25/2014 11:54:58 AM PDT by old gringo
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