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Oklahoma beheading suspect's mom apologizes
The Oklahoman ^ | Sunday, September 28, 2014 2:31 pm | Nolan Clay

Posted on 09/28/2014 3:06:23 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie

The mother of beheading suspect Alton Nolen apologized to the families of the two victims in a short video posted on Facebook Saturday night.

“My heart is just so heavy right now,” Joyce Nolen said. “That’s not my son.”

The mother explained in the video that what her son is accused of doing is so unlike the good kid she raised up in a loving home.

“My son was raised up believing in God. That’s what he believes,” she said.

The mother apologized halfway through the video which plays for one minute and 38 seconds.

“His family, our hearts bleed right now because what they saying Alton has done,” she said. “I want to apologize to both families — because this is not Alton.”

The mother also said she is praying that justice will prevail and “the whole story will come out.”

Also speaking in the video is Megan Nolen, one of the suspect’s sisters. Megan Nolen said his family is in shock because he has never been a violent person.

“We’re praying for both of the victims’ families and the victims,” Megan Nolen said.

“Yes,” her mother adds.

The mother lives in Idabel, where Alton Nolen went to high school.

The two did not say their names in the dimly lit video made inside a residence. The Oklahoman confirmed their identities Sunday with Paige Nolen, who also is a sister of the suspect.

“We are all very remorseful,” Paige Nolen told The Oklahoman. “If he had a chance to say anything, more than likely he would be apologizing, and that’s what we want the world to know.”


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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I think she's lying through her teeth...

just like the gentle giant's parents and Tray's parents....

41 posted on 09/28/2014 3:42:54 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Why did she raise a thug with a lengthy rap sheet, that included assaulting a police officer? And why was this outlaw not on someone’s radar after he converted to Islam? Any Black who exits prison espousing Islam should be considered worthy of surveillance.


42 posted on 09/28/2014 3:43:36 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: ronnie raygun

Hey you don’t think that Ferguson craziness that happened last night was spontaneous do you? It was all orchestrated to take the focus off of the beheading..and hardly a peep about this beheading, in AMERICA on the news..Obama has already ordered his minions in the press to cover this up. Not even a statement about this horrific event from Obama himself, of course not, it was HIS guy that did it, one of his many Muslim sons..the cover up occurred the second this happened


43 posted on 09/28/2014 3:44:05 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: lyby

Amen.

I can’t imagine - and hope and pray I never have to find out - what it is like to have a child get caught in a cult and become a murderous thug.

Seems like he was first involved in drugs, which suggests a progression. One of his tattooes was RIP to somebody, which makes me wonder if he turned to drugs while grieving, which got him into the prison and from there the Muslim cult got him.

I don’t know what the story is, but this man has definitely been possessed by the demon that is Islam, and I pray that he will be restored to a right mind/spirit.

I didn’t watch the video of the altercation between the family and the police at the hospital but I read the description. Sounds like the family was at the hospital for hours hoping to see the jihadist but wasn’t allowed to visit him. While they were there somebody from their church who didn’t know what had happened wanted the mom to come see his sick wife and pray with her - which the staff and police interpreted as a backdoor attempt to sneak in and see the jihadist.

I don’t know what kind of church it was, but somebody expecting that the mom would come pray with his wife suggests that the family may be Christian. Maybe they’ve been worried about him and didn’t know what to do. Maybe their church is PC so they thought everything would be fine (hard to believe that, though, since they were FB friends with him so should have seen what he was like). Hard to tell. But I imagine they are probably hurting badly right now.


44 posted on 09/28/2014 3:50:25 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: txrefugee

Blaming a parent for the acts of their children is senseless.

Some are raised poorly and end up good. The opposite happens, as well.


45 posted on 09/28/2014 3:51:36 PM PDT by sakic
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To: butterdezillion

You just accurately summarized what I was thinking about/for this family whose son did this horrible thing... I saw the hospital video yesterday... seems to me a family confused and reaching out - for what I can only hope and pray.


46 posted on 09/28/2014 3:56:52 PM PDT by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: txrefugee

Do we have enough police/undercover agents to surveil them all?

This is a terrifying situation, and our government is acting like the three monkeys.


47 posted on 09/28/2014 3:57:39 PM PDT by jacquej ("It is the peculiar quality of a fool to perceive the faults of others and to forget his own.")
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To: zeestephen

They’ll sue the volunteer deputy who shot him for racism.


48 posted on 09/28/2014 3:57:49 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Jonty30
If she’s done everything reasonable that could have done to raise a man, she deserves to not be attacked.

i would agree if it were not for her conditional apology... she is sorry "for what they are saying Alton done..." like he possibly did not do it... she is waiting for "the whole story to come out..." like there might be justification? what can i think? and that if Alton could say more, he would be "apologizing," and that is what they want the world to know...

okay--be sorry for what your son has done... or say nothing like the parents of the Columbine killers...

49 posted on 09/28/2014 3:58:05 PM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: latina4dubya

I think she’s hoping there is another explanation. She’s in denial. Literally in shock.


50 posted on 09/28/2014 4:01:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: ronnie raygun

http://weaselzippers.us/201034-second-muslim-in-oklahoma-threatens-to-behead-co-worker-because-shes-a-christian/

Second Muslim In Oklahoma Threatens To Behead Co-Worker Because She’s A Christian…

She said Muriithi identified himself as a Muslim and said he “represented ISIS and that ISIS kills Christians,” the detective told a judge in the affidavit. The two had not worked together before.

Boy they are really coming out of the woodwork aren’t they


51 posted on 09/28/2014 4:02:26 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
“My heart is just so heavy right now,” Joyce Nolen said. “That’s not my son.”

What possesses people to write and post such nonsense?


52 posted on 09/28/2014 4:02:57 PM PDT by Iron Munro (We can make it work with only one square per restroom visit -- Sheryl Crow)
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To: butterdezillion

Did you happen to see this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3208820/posts


53 posted on 09/28/2014 4:03:34 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

In her way, it she is saying that her son was demon possessed.

And he was. The demon was “allah”. The method of entry was “islam”.

Islam is the only “religion” I can think of where, the deeper you go, the more monstrous you become. It is satanic.

Yes, I know there are muslims who aren’t monsters. They are the ones fleeing from the ones who are. They are the ones who are silent in the face of their depredations for fear they’ll be the next to face the axeman. They are the ones who flee to America to get away from their misery but then bring the demon with them.

And some few of them are the ones who go into battle at our side. But you never know for sure which ones will have your back and which ones will pop you from behind.


54 posted on 09/28/2014 4:05:51 PM PDT by marron
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To: DuncanWaring; Telepathic Intruder

“No, we mere mortals are qualified to discern that a person who saws someone’s head off for no good reason is a bad person.”

No, Telepathic Intruder is correct... Jesus died for our sins, assuming we repent. A that includes cutting someone’s head off. This rag-head did a terrible thing, that’s clear.

But he could repent. I’m not suggesting he will, we just don’t know...


55 posted on 09/28/2014 4:17:51 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: babygene
he could repent.

He could, and I hope he does. Thats a separate issue.

Meanwhile, we are justified in referring to him as a "bad person". And while I hope he finds the Lord, and finds salvation and eternal life if nothing else for his mother's sake... there is still the little matter of earthly justice he must still face.

56 posted on 09/28/2014 4:24:31 PM PDT by marron
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To: zeestephen
Oklahoma must have the death penalty.

It does.

I was thinking about that earlier. I concluded that the Obama Justice Dept might try to 'federalize' this crime somehow to put the perp alleged perp under federal custody to avoid the state death penalty. It would not surprise me one bit.
57 posted on 09/28/2014 4:29:03 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: marron

“there is still the little matter of earthly justice he must still face.”

Don’t disagree with that at all...


58 posted on 09/28/2014 4:30:05 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I saw that article - not the thread or the video itself.

I think if my child did this I would be in shock, even if I had feared that it was coming.

I helped my daughter talk her friend out of suicide. The friend hung up on her and all we could do was desperately pray that what we feared wouldn’t happen. In our case it didn’t, for which I am very thankful. But it could just as easily have gone the other direction and if it had we would have been in shock because the illness won.

Some have suggested that the family was in on Islam. Certainly they knew he was Muslim and that he was all-in. Maybe he was trying to recruit them and they were being persuaded. Maybe they saw him in the clutch of a cult and were trying to win him back. We don’t know. Maybe we never will.

Whether it be a cult or some other disease of the mind, or actual demons, families are torn apart watching it happen, especially if they are trying to win the person back to health.

Islam is a demonic cult. When a person truly swallows it hook line and sinker, it makes wild animals out of what were once human beings. The word itself means “submit”. In Christian circles there are a lot of songs asking God to take total control, people submit totally to God. And as Christians we want our children to do that - submit to God so that He controls their whole life. That’s what Muslims think they’re doing - only the “God” they submit to is a demon. How easily could this happen to someone raised in Christianity, or to somebody who’s become embittered by life and wants to totally start over as if Christianity had failed them?

A couple weeks ago my daughter and I saw “God is Not Dead”. A lot of times atheism is anger at God, sometimes because of loss - as depicted in that movie. The Bible talks about somebody sweeping the house clean of demons but because the house is empty even more demons come and make their home there. Nature abhors a vacuum. The analogy is true, that inside every person there is a God-shaped hole. If the real God isn’t filling up that emptiness, the person will try to fill it with something else. Maybe cocaine, like it seems this guy got into. Maybe self-sanctimonious liberalism/atheism which has landed more than one person as an ally of Islamicism. Maybe a different “god”.

When we watch people trying to fill the void with something besides the real God, it hurts. Big-time.

I don’t know the truth about this family. I just know if it was me I would be really hurting, and I would be wanting the Christian community to pray with me for my son’s soul to be rescued from these demons.


59 posted on 09/28/2014 4:46:01 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: TigersEye

I think we’d all be in shock, as I explained in the post right before this.


60 posted on 09/28/2014 4:48:10 PM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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