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In Defense of Joe Biden: Why is the word 'Oriental' a racist word now?
National Review ^ | 09/29/2014 | Josh Gelernter

Posted on 09/29/2014 9:27:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Filipinos don’t exactly feel Asian or Oriental...They enjoy their Spanish and American influence...they have their own thing going on.


41 posted on 09/29/2014 10:26:52 AM PDT by chasio649
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To: muir_redwoods
Oriental assumes a basis in the west since Asia is only east from Europe or the Americas

Sorry, but when I think Oriental my mind goes west.

42 posted on 09/29/2014 10:28:15 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Left depends heavily, as one of its tools of control, on manipulation of guilt. To do this they have to keep inventing new thought crimes.

Then they offer themselves as absolution. Align yourself with them and you are redeemed.


43 posted on 09/29/2014 10:29:42 AM PDT by marron
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To: Verginius Rufus

Japan called itself that in reference to China. Viewed from China, the sun did seem to rise over Japan. I think it was a way of countering the Chinese reference to the Japanese as the “Island Dwarves”


44 posted on 09/29/2014 10:31:42 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fictional)
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To: SeekAndFind; Fiji Hill; Hot Tabasco; DesertRhino
The Orient means the East. It is a traditional designation for anything that belongs to the Eastern world or the Middle East (aka Near East) or the Far East, in relation to Europe.

that is my understanding... it can include even parts of North Africa... India to Thailand... all inclusive... and that may be why it is offensive... because it is lumping all those ethnicities altogether...

45 posted on 09/29/2014 10:54:08 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: elcid1970

bada-BING!


46 posted on 09/29/2014 10:54:34 AM PDT by clintonh8r (It's possible to love your country and hate your government. I'm proof of it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Give us a break with this political correctness crap. Now that we use the term white Americans, black Americans, its time to call Asians, yellow Americans and Hispanics, brown Americans. Now we need a color for Arabs.


47 posted on 09/29/2014 11:05:46 AM PDT by kenmcg (b)
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To: SeekAndFind

Somehow I just don’t picture India being in the Orient.


48 posted on 09/29/2014 11:15:34 AM PDT by csmusaret (Will remove Obama-Biden bumperstickers for $10)
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To: SeekAndFind
For "Orient" and "Occident," the German language offers two wonderfully evocative words: "das Morgenland" and "das Abendland," respectively.

Regards,

49 posted on 09/29/2014 11:21:57 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Do Germans call Asians Asiaten? or Orientalisch?


50 posted on 09/29/2014 11:38:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s just call it the “O word.”


51 posted on 09/29/2014 11:40:51 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: SeekAndFind
There's an interesting story behind the use of the term "Orient." Whether it is true or not, I leave to you.

Sometime in the Middle Ages, the Pope declared (because he does these things) that only a certain kind of map could be used to portray the known world. These were called "T in O" maps.

Here's one now:

People like to orient maps so that North is at the top. Notice that "Asia" is right up top on the Papal-approved map?

Coincidence?

52 posted on 09/29/2014 11:48:24 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: alexander_busek

Speaking of Germans, Metternich said that “Asia begins at the Landstrasse” (a street in Vienna leading in the direction of Hungary).


53 posted on 09/29/2014 12:26:23 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: kinsman redeemer
I think the idea was to make the map look like the letters O and T. For orbis terrarum?

Nice clean map but a little lacking in detail. It's hard to make out the "boot" of the Italian peninsula, for example.

54 posted on 09/29/2014 12:30:41 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Hot Tabasco

” he’s likely to think you’re refering to a muslim........”

Or an Indian.

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55 posted on 09/29/2014 12:33:43 PM PDT by Mears
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To: latina4dubya
We need to reclaim the word "Orient" from the politically correct busybodies.

Maybe renaming universities with "East" in their name as "Oriental" would be a start.

Oriental Tennessee State University
Oriental Connecticut State University
Oriental Stroudsburg University of Pennsylvania
Oriental Kentucky University

56 posted on 09/29/2014 12:33:44 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: SeekAndFind

Joel, Joel, Joel.... It’s only racist if a republican says it. Come on, get with the program!


57 posted on 09/29/2014 12:40:58 PM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Liberals are into ‘intellectual fashion’ non-thinking... You don't have to know anything - you learn the “sound of cool”. Buzz words separate the ‘in’ kids from the losers... AND better yet, it allows the ‘cool kids’ to be total idiots. I think it was started in newsrooms...
58 posted on 09/29/2014 1:01:29 PM PDT by GOPJ ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants" - Albert Camus)
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To: SeekAndFind
Do Germans call Asians Asiaten? or Orientalisch?

It seems that they usually refer to them as Asiaten, although I haven't heard that term very often in conversation, broadcasts, etc. "Morgenländer" (orientals) seems to be more of a poetic reference, as is "Abenländer" (occidentals).

59 posted on 09/29/2014 5:46:32 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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