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To: wetphoenix
You are so much ignorant to say the least. Play back 150 and you would see the same as nowadays even in more extreme forms.

So you're saying if the KGB did not create the PLO, and all these other terrorist and "liberation" movements across the world, or send Zawahiri to Al-Qaeda, they would have happened without the help of your masters?

Russia was at war with Muslims over Christian persecution in Middle East

Russia is an anti-Christ country that hates Christianity. The ROC is tolerated only because it is under the total control of your security services and functions as a way to promote Stalin and his form of government (which they prefer). According to your Communist and Fascist "Christians," Stalin was a great guy.

As for a modern Islamic terrorism it is purely a British invention.

So you're saying that Arafat was actually working for the British? Hamas and Hizbollah are not armed with Russian weapons, or receiving money and funds from Russian allies like Syria and Iran? Modern Islamic terrorism, with its hijackings, car bombs, and terrorist actions, were not trained and instructed by the KGB, even though their Communist counterparts were doing the same thing? Does being Muslim mean that they are automatically used to Russian methods?

When there are some powerful and dangerous groups it is a job of intelligence to gain influence with them.

Zawahiri was the number 2 in Al-Qaeda. Now he is the number one. By influence you mean "control".

34 posted on 10/08/2014 6:32:49 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

~So you’re saying that Arafat was actually working for the British? ~

Go back to my post and read it once again. I haven’t mentioned Arafat and PLO at all. And of course, any informed person here realizes that Islamism haven’t started with Arafat and it is not near limited to PLO.

I also find your idea of Russia ‘controls’ terrorists funny. If you really think one may control these people you would make a perfect cat herder.

But it is typical blunder of British foreign policy, inherited by the US.
It is not if the US haven’t stepped into this crap earlier but you guys still refuse to learn upon past experience and also assuming that other powers, including Russia, acting based on this blunder too.

Your politicians all thought they can make Frankenstein which would for some reason obey them, it never works out, but you are keep trying, using the very same fabric but even less competent labor aka modern affirmative action government employees.

As for some Russian influence with the Islamists do you really think it is not a fair fight when one wrestles a gun pointed at him from another and then shots the perp in a leg? I think it is quite a hypocrisy to cry ‘armed assault’ on part of a ‘victim’.

I think Russian position towards Islamism isbto view it as an evil enemy. But it is realistically recognized as a force to recon with and probably use as one of sides against the middle.

Once again, it is the West, not Russia, which is routinely places all bets on radical Islamists.

The power of Russian design and the primary Russian allies in the region are Baathists who are exact antipodes to radical Islam.

~Russia is an anti-Christ country that hates Christianity. The ROC is tolerated only because it is under the total control of your security services and functions as a way to promote Stalin and his form of government (which they prefer). ussia is an anti-Christ country that hates Christianity. The ROC is tolerated only because it is under the total control of your security services and functions as a way to promote Stalin and his form of government (which they prefer).~

Despite the fact that you have brought too much russophobia trumping any common sense I would probably agree that the ROC is not the best friend of freedom.
I don’t go to their churches and don’t like their preaching because they are teaching to obey the elites and aren’t encouraging hard work, achievement and so on.
I wouldn’t link it to communists or security apparatus.
It might be primarily a feudal thing back to centuries ago since they were licking arse for the Tsars, nobility and influential merchants for dough.

It doesn’t mean all the Russians share the ROC view on Christianity and apprise their unholy union with government and corporations, including people identifying themselves as Orthodox.


36 posted on 10/08/2014 8:59:00 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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