"Tell them to come on down. The borders are open."
Posted on 10/11/2014 5:28:25 AM PDT by EBH
Ethnic Kurds clashed overnight with alleged members of a hardline Islamist movement in Hamburg last night, as ISIS clashes spread far from Syria.
Police in the northern German city say 14 people were injured overnight in the violence involving hundreds of demonstrators before riot police were able to quell the disturbance.
Police spokesman Karina Sadowsky said this morning that fighting began after hundreds of Kurds held a protest against the Islamic State group...
...Last night's violence in Germany came as at least nine Kurdish demonstrators were killed by police in Turkey as demonstrations against the government's failure to help Syrian Kurds fighting Isis just across the border turned violent.
Turkey's pro-Kurdish Peoples' Democratic Party had called for citizens to protest the assault on Kobane, where the situation turned 'extremely critical' overnight.
Officers used tear gas and water cannons to disperse protesters in Turkey's predominantly Kurdish eastern and south-eastern provinces, as well as the capital Ankara and in Istanbul, where cars were set on fire and demonstrators threw rocks and fireworks at police.
There were rumors that in some areas police opened fire on demonstrators.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
ISIS is popping up like the ebola virus. What will president Obola do? Shelter in place or issue a statement on workplace violence? CONgre$$ has their thumbs up their _ _ _ _ _. Check$ and balance$. Gotta keep ‘em coming you know. We’re paying these clowns for….?
—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
"Tell them to come on down. The borders are open."
I’d liken letting more Muslims emigrate to your country is about as good an idea as letting in “Walking Dead” zombies.
There are a whole lot of very nasty and predictable consequences to our doing Saudi Arabia's foreign policy for them and to Turkey being in NATO. And now....surprise!!!....after we enabled protestors getting nasty in Kiev, out of control demonstrations are bursting out in Europe.
I can't imagine how the globalist elitist maniacs put this genie back in the bottle. The miracle (so far) is that disease hasn't broken out in refugee camps and other areas degraded by chaos and dislocations of people.
Good point. Add to that the potential for economic chaos. Mathematically, it's textbook chaos theory. If there's more of a factor than can be handled, in chaos everything breaks down. It's the breakdown of governments and the associated wars and degredation of society that's the input that our civilization can't handle, so everything else runs amuck.
JMHO
A) ... Protesting (petitioning) their own government to DO something about the invaders,
and
B) ... Preventing the citizens from doing anything themselves because the government is ineffective.
Am I wrong ?
Yep, interlocking crises can really multiply the effects. Imagine an Ebola outbreak in a city undergoing riots. Nobody sane will leave their house, and the economy will crash. Soon enough the engineers won’t report for duty at the power plants if it’s risky going back and forth, or if they are not paid (in meaningful money with purchasing power) due to the economic crash.
"HAIL TO THE EMPEROR!
It's time to mark this as a political movement and not a religion.
There can be no separation of the so called good muzzies and the bad. Every "good" muslim is supporting these murdering bas*****.
That is the question I have asked for a long time and one our own founding fathers did not seem to address...
What to do with Theocracy?
And truth be told nearly every person holds to a truth higher than their own government/country.
How does America handle Freedom of Religion, when the adherents of a religion cannot recognize the power of the State? In fact, what should be done with those that want to wage religious war against the State?
Obama and CAIR (Council of Angry Islamic Radicals) tell us that ISIS isn't Islam, which is a “religion of peace.”.
But didn't Mohammed do everything that ISIS has done -- raiding villages, kidnapping, rapes, mass murders and beheadings, forced conversions, selling woman and young girls into slavery?
So please, somebody tell me what ISIS is doing that Mohammed himself -- the wretched, bloodthirsty murderer and child rapist -- didn't condone and exemplify through his own orders and actions? How is ISIS different?
And by the way, if any of you ever happen to be at an Obama press conference, or interviewing a member of his administration or a CAIR spokesman, maybe you can ask that question.
I would really like to hear the answer.
1. The traditional answer to interlocking crises has been interlocking fields of fire.
2. Rioters are in the open.
3. Residents are in their buildings.
4. Buildings provide both concealment and cover compared to rioters in the open.
5. Suppression of violent and/or destructive behavior is most effectively and most economically done by the endangered citizen.
6. The armed citizen by definition is on the scene in a timely manner - which no cop can be expected to equal.
7. An armed citizen, with the cover/concealment of a building, will deliver far more accurate fire than can be expected of an officer.
Most of the world’s citizens have been disarmed by their governments.
We, so far, have not. We are capable of emplacing a rifle behind every blade of grass, or firing in self defense in practically any setting.
How will ISIS infiltrators interact with your local mosque? Do they say to the imam, “Support us or we will kill you as an apostate”, and make that mosque a target for public suspicion? I doubt they will be more subtle than that.
CCW, range time with combat course firing. An essential survival skill these days.
“I’d liken letting more Muslims emigrate to your country is about as good an idea as letting in “Walking Dead” zombies.”
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I’d reckon you are very careless in your thinking, “Walking Dead” zombies” would be much to be preferred. The zombies don’t reproduce, they don’t build mosques, they don’t prey loudly with their arses up in the air,they move slowly so that even a seventy year old like me can easily outmanuever two or three of them, they don’t carry AK-47s and they are easily stopped with a bullet to the head or simply bursting the skull open with any sharp or blunt instrument. I would much rather deal with the zombies.
The questions:
1. How does America handle Freedom of Religion, when the adherents of a religion cannot recognize the power of the State?
Answer: “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and unto God that which is God’s.”
2. What should be done with those that want to wage religious war against the State?
Answer: “Martyr them - it is their desire/goal.”
We all know it is impolite to keep a lady waiting, and no American would be so rude as to keep a Muslim from his appointment with 72 of them’
Urban Ferals have an appointment with a certain Gatekeeper - and as they are known for rude behavior, we should (whenever necessary) help them to be timely.
What is Obama supposed to do?
He’s not the one who let millions of Muslims immigrate to Europe. I really do not see this as his (or our) problem to deal with. Why is it that every time Europe gets in trouble it is our business to “do something”?
Aren’t they the lands with free medical care, great social safety nets and everyone gets fantastic vacation leave (as they never let anyone forget)? Let them handle it while on vacation.
We should take a lesson from what is happening there and do something about it here.
I think Obola is secretly happy that ISIS is waging war against the infidels and is doing his best to look like he’s trying to stop themusing ineffective measures but is really just trying to stay out if their way and let them conquer as much territory and continue to grow until they reach the U.S. where he will tell our military to stand down. I have a feeling they won’t and there may be a coup. Just a feeling. It may take awhile though. With our order so porous it’s very possible they are concealing bombs at key locations for a coordinated attack in the near future. That may be what those recent ISIS members were up to when they got caught at the order recently. I think that was either a political play or diversion while others were crossing over in other areas. Surely they know there are literally thousands of places where you can cross over with no fence or border patrol anywhere in sight. They wouldn’t have just strolled in either. Mohammad at the local gas station would have been there to pick them up and drive them to their safe house location...
> What is Obama supposed to do?
He’s not the one who let millions of Muslims immigrate to Europe. I really do not see this as his (or our) problem to deal with. Why is it that every time Europe gets in trouble it is our business to “do something”?
Aren’t they the lands with free medical care, great social safety nets and everyone gets fantastic vacation leave (as they never let anyone forget)? Let them handle it while on vacation.
We should take a lesson from what is happening there and do something about it here.
You forgot the /s tag. Many of their countriess are on the brink of bankruptcy and their healthcare quality sucks big time. Their illegal immigrant situation and their effects on their economies is similar to what is happening here.
WW3 is lining up nicely just the way the banking/elites need and want.
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