Only if they get God to change his mind about sin.
There we MUST strive for accuracy...
No, we will not “accept” them demanding the Church accept their continuing to sin.
In my opinion the Gay Priests and Cardinals and Bishops are trying to completely ruin the church and cement their power base....
That is what the synod is all about...
I wonder if this is related to the number of homosexual clergy members? Besides those that cost the Church millions in homosexual rape cases, there are plenty more out there.
Benedict XVI banned them from the seminaries (I was shocked that wasn’t already in place for centuries); will this undo the ban?
Of course a vicar of Christ’s main responsibility is to be among the sinners.So “shunning” homosexuals is a violation of that duty.But when they’re among sinners they must calmly,clearly and forcefully explaining to them that their acts are sinful and greatly displease their Creator.OTOH,”celebrating” a sinners acts is beyond ridiculous.
Celebrate sexual deviancy, right Pope? We’ll all have a “gay” old time.
So if this is all the Catholic church is saying, I think this is fine, although many people are rightly suspicious of this pope right now. Let's see if there is more to this, or if there are any other “translations” we haven't yet seen.
The great falling away (apostasia) is taking place before our eyes.
With the falling of the RCC, there are no major Christian denominations remaining that oppose the sodomite agenda.
A: The same thing they always do - accept their church tradition over God's Word.
All 57 states can approve the gay lifestyle. The Catholic Church and anybody else can approve it. God still disapproves of it.
So which side would you prefer to be on.
You are either on the side of the Cross or the side of Nimrod who had his tower destroyed because he thought man had a better idea
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From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
“2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that “homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.” They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.”
Sure. They just have to accept that the difference between "A" and "not A" is not absolute but subject to interpretation. Actually, here it's more "A" and "thou shalt not A"
Celebrate diversity: lust, greed, gluttony, envy, anger, pride, sloth
They are already accepted, as sinners and must repent. They should never be allowed to marry and/or practice their choice openly. That would spell the end of the church.
Interesting perspective by people at the scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgVlbQp-IhQ&feature=youtu.be
This is HIGHLY suspect since it comes from Yahoo and Reuters. Which *Vatican document* said on Monday that homosexuals had “gifts and qualities to offer” and asked if Catholicism could accept gays and recognize positive aspects of same-sex couples?
Attention Liberal “Journalists.” The Church will NEVER change the teaching that homosexual sex or any sex outside of a marriage between one man and one woman is morally sinful.
PS The Church accepts ALL sinners and offers them God’s truth and salvation in Christ... which gives them FREEDOM from SIN!!!!
Note that Romans 1:26-27 bluntly condemns same-sex sexual relationships in NT times.
And not only does Matthew 18:15-17 show that Jesus taught that a congregation is ultimately to show zero tolerance for unrepentant sinners, 1 Corinthians 5 gives an example of a sexual offender that should have been kicked out of the congregation.
In fact, not only does 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 tell Christians “do not be deceived” about the consequences of things which include sexual immorality, but 1 Corinthians 5:11 tells Christians not even to eat with such people.
So given its unscriptural stance on homosexuality, the Vatican evidently no longer has the things of God in mind, imo, but the things of men as Jesus reprimanded Peter for in Matthew 16:23.
Exactly as I thought: The press is misrepresenting this *document* as some sort of statement by the Church that is a document of doctrinal truth. It is not. It is merely a summary of what was discussed at what is supposed to be an open discussion.
Here is what the relatio actually stated:
50. Homosexuals have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community: are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a fraternal space in our communities? Often they wish to encounter a Church that offers them a welcoming home. Are our communities capable of providing that, accepting and valuing their sexual orientation, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony?
As one can see, it is somewhat different than the impression given by the secular press.
Source: http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2014/10/13/0751/03037.html
Instead of asking whether we can accept them, changing our rules to do so, why not ask if they can accept our rules if they want in the Church?
Words of the document. It does not condone the sin of homosexuality. Once again the liberal press writes what they want, instead of the facts.
50. Homosexuals have gifts and qualities to offer to the Christian community: are we capable of welcoming these people, guaranteeing to them a fraternal space in our communities? Often they wish to encounter a Church that offers them a welcoming home. Are our communities capable of providing that, accepting and valuing their sexual orientation, without compromising Catholic doctrine on the family and matrimony?
51. The question of homosexuality leads to a serious reflection on how to elaborate realistic paths of affective growth and human and evangelical maturity integrating the sexual dimension: it appears therefore as an important educative challenge. The Church furthermore affirms that unions between people of the same sex cannot be considered on the same footing as matrimony between man and woman. Nor is it acceptable that pressure be brought to bear on pastors or that international bodies make financial aid dependent on the introduction of regulations inspired by gender ideology.
52. Without denying the moral problems connected to homosexual unions it has to be noted that there are cases in which mutual aid to the point of sacrifice constitutes a precious support in the life of the partners. Furthermore, the Church pays special attention to the children who live with couples of the same sex, emphasizing that the needs and rights of the little ones must always be given priority.